Death Battle Predictions: Doctor Strange VS Doctor Fate

Doctors have been regarded as some of the greatest and most influential members of human society since time immemorial. Some have dabbled in the field of medicine, saving lives to the best of their abilities. Others have pushed their limits of knowledge to the extreme in hopes that the information they possess can be imparted to others. For the denizens of the Marvel and DC Universes, that title also belongs to two of the greatest masters of magic in the world - once ordinary men who heeded the call to action only to become unstoppable forces of nature:

Doctor Strange, the Sorcerer Supreme. Doctor Fate, servant to the Lords of Order. Both Stephen Strange and Kent Nelson have conquered everything from interdimensional invaders to malevolent deities, ranking them among the most powerful heroes of their respective universes with little to no equal… except to each other, that is. The doctors are in for Death Battle’s next episode to settle yet another legendary comic book grudge match, and only one of them can emerge from this uncanny yet destined encounter as the sole superior supernatural superhero.

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Side note 2: Huge Credit goes to LSwan62 for giving us permission to use some of his notes from his blog of Strange vs Fate for our Prediction Blog. You can see his prediction blog here: http://lswan62.blogspot.com/2016/03/death-prediction-doctor-strange-vs.html

Background

Doctor Strange

“Dormammu, I’ve come to bargain!”

For some, Dr. Stephen Strange may seem like an ordinary doctor. But in reality, he’s far from it. Instead, Stephen is a master neurosurgeon who works great with his precise and careful hands. There was no dying body that was sent to him that he couldn’t save. As long as they are alive, he will save them, regardless of how difficult it may sound.

But that all changed when he was caught in a horrible car accident. The car he was driving was completely totaled and Strange was mangled up to the point where he should be dead. But because this is comic book land, where no big name can die like that, Strange was rescued and rushed straight to the hospital. While he survived the accident, his hands were not so lucky. He could barely move them, let alone work with them. So he decided to do everything he can to fix his arms, be they surgeries, exercise machines, etc. all of which failing and leading to him bankrupting himself. Despite essentially giving up on life, Strange’s journey to fix his hands led him to Kamar-Taj, where he met a sorcerer named the Ancient One.

Despite original denial, the Ancient One eventually agreed to take Strange under his wing and train him in the mystic arts. Eventually, Strange studied and learned several different techniques to work with his new abilities, becoming the Sorcerer Supreme, Doctor Strange……..yeah, that’s not a creative title.

Doctor Fate

“What comes next, mere mortals cannot stop. For better or worse, you’re fate rests in the gods’ hands.”

Born as Kent Nelson, his life was anything but normal. With his father Sven being an archaeologist who firmly believed that the pyramids in the Valley of Ur were built by aliens. He brought his son with him on the expedition (which you would think a father would not do considering how dangerous pyramids can be). However, in that tomb wasn’t aliens but rather the remains of Nabu - the Lord of Order.

The Lords of Order were first created alongside the Lord of Chaos. However, like brothers they fought over milenna with Nabu eventually decided to go to Earth in order to fight the Lord of Chaos though he was drained during his many battles and resides in that Pyramid.

Now let’s go back to the present, Sven and Kent accidently released Nabu which caused a poisonous gas to appear which led to the death of Sven Nelson. Taking pity on young Kent (mostly because his father’s death was Nabu’s fault and well he planned everything), Nabu decide that he would train Kent in the ways of magic and sorcery so that he would become the defender of the earth.

Nabu spend years training Kent, allowing him to withstand the effects of wearing the helmet (considering the amount of power it wields - it can put a huge strain on the human body), When Kent and Nabu merged, they became Doctor Fate. Upon returning to America, he would meet Inza Cramer - his wife and later successor. The two helped each other and eventually Kent would become a superhero - becoming a member of DC’s first superhero team - the Justice Society. However, he would eventually die due to aging and the mantle of Doctor Fate would be passed to many others.

Equipment

Doctor Strange

Eye of Agamotto

This artifact was used by the first Sorcerer Supreme, Agamotto and is the mystical artifact that Strange uses the most. It contains the Light of Truth, which is able to reveal and banish illusions as well as protect against telepathy attacks. It is also able to manipulate and control others as well as allow Strange to detect people across dimensions. It can create a shield for Strange, fire mystic attacks from its eye, absorb magical attacks directed at it as well as manipulate time.

:ike the Sword of Omens from Thundercats, the Eye of Agamotto can return to Strange at the  “speed of thought”. It can also be used to merge with Eternity, however, this ability will most likely not be used in the DEATH BATTLE. In the movies, the Eye utilizes the Time Stone and can manipulate and control the flow of time, allowing him to reset time constantly. However, as the comic version takes precedent, it is unknown if the MCU version will be included.

Cloak of Levitation

As the name may suggest, Doctor Strange will often use the Cloak in order to fly. It can also be used as a “second set of hands”, as the Cloak can fight independant of Strange and can attack foes even if Strange himself has been incapacitated. The Cloak is nearly indestructible, though it has been close to being destroyed on three separate occasions.

Orb of Agamottto

Another creation of Agamotto’s, this orb is basically a large crystal ball that can be used to see into the future and observe events that are going on across multiple universes. It also sees through massive scale reality warping.

Book of Vishanti

The most powerful tome when it comes to White / Order magic. The Book of the Vishanti contains every incantation that is known to the mystical arts but it also holds the most powerful White Magic in the Marvel universe. Strange has also used it as a record book and adds his own knowledge and logs to the book's pages. The book is powerful enough in order to defeat extremely potent Black Magic users such as Kaluu. He can also use the book to banish beings into an endless dimension.

Wand of Watoomb

This magical device amplifies Doctor Strange’s power. It can also be used to absorb mystical energy which can then be used to fire mystical bolts and is able to restructure reality itself when combined with other mystical objects. However, it is currently lost after the events of House of M.

Weapon/Item Artifacts

• Axe of Angarrumus: An axe that radiates mystical power
• Staff of Dravid: A mystical staff that was used by Doctor Strange in battle with Wandor.
• Sword of the Ultimate Shadow: A magical sword that is able to inflict pain to others even if they are in an astral form.
• Serum of the Seraphim: The most powerful medicine known to the occult. It it mostly used as a healing potion, capable of returning Strange to full health through drinking it. It can also cure physical diseases such as blindness. However, it is not an unlimited source and will run out.
• Oculus Oroboros: The Oculus Oroboros is one of the most powerful conduits for elemental magic, increasing the potency of any elemental attack that Strange uses.
• Scrolls of Watoomb: These scrolls allow the user to successfully cast and control the Winds of Watoomb, which calls forth gale style winds.

Support Artifacts

These artifacts are used less-so for combat purposes and more-so for knowledge and dimensional travel

• Hands of the Dead: Created fifteen centuries ago, it allows Strange to travel across universes/dimensions in the blink of the eye. Its main weaknesses is that it can be damaging to people who are not used to the travel like… Peter Parker in One More Day.
• Atlantean Dreamwave: Used by Strange to explore the nightmares of Johnny Blaze
• Book of Demonicus: A book that has extensive info on mythical creatures and beings. It was written by the Wizard Eibon.
• Brazier of Bom'Galiath:  Allows immediate transportation into hell
• Tome of Oshtur: an ancient book of long-lost spells written by Oshtur
• Ring of the Ancient One: Allows Doctor Strange to do anything he is capable of in physical form while in astral projection form
• Crystal of Kadavus: A diamond-like gemstone. When exposing it to the light of a full moon, it focuses dimensional forces. When this focused beam is aimed at a magical item it is completely restored to its full power.
• Hand of the Vishanti: Essentially a location device, allowing Strange to track the location of others
• Scroll of Eternity: Has a spell that will transport the user to Eternity
• Purple Gem: Allows Strange to enter the Purple Dimension, can amplify and focus the Eye of Agamotto's power as well as be used to trap an enemy in the Purple Dimension.

Doctor Fate

Helmet of Fate

This helmet is what grants Kent Nelson the powers of Doctor Fate, connecting with Nabu each time he puts it on. It was created along with two other mystical items: the Amulet of Anubis and the Cloak of Destiny. The Helmet of Fate grants access to Doctor Fate’s god-like power as well as Nabu’s experience and cosmic omniscience. It also houses all the experiences and memories of those who have previously worn the Helmet of Fate making it so Doctor Fate has thousands years worth of experience and memories to call on. The helmet cannot be easily removed and is very hard to break as it has tanked attacks from foes such as the Spectre and survived.

It does have one major flaw in that if the helmet is removed, Kent will lose Nabu’s power as well as his memories during his time as Doctor Fate. However, despite this flaw, the Helmet of Fate is still is one of the most powerful magical items in all of the DC Universe.

Amulet of Anubis

The second of the three mythical items, the Amulet of Anubis originally belonged to the mad priest Khalis until Nabu defeated him and took the amulet for itself. The Amulet of Anubis is extremely powerful, holding a pocket universe inside of it as well as being used to imprison foes. It also increases Doctor Fate’s magical power as well as making Doctor Fate undetectable through magical or psychic means.

Cloak of Destiny

Made out of pure force, this cloak has a Shadow Dimension inside of it that can be used to protect those who are inside as well as disoritentant others. He can also use it to protect himself against ranged attacks and to fly.

Orb of Nabu

The Orb of Nabu is a crystal globe that is used by Dr. Fate to learn about any potential dangers in the future and to learn about an opponent and their abilities. Usually the crystal is kept inside the Tower of Fate, but it could also be summoned by Fate at will. Surprisingly, it is not magical (at least according to Kent) as it uses radio sensitive crystals.

Globe-Destroying Gun

In one story, Doctor Fate created a gun that was capable of destroying globes that were the size of planets… yeah the 1940s were weird.

Tower of Fate

This is a safe haven for those who use the mantle of Doctor Fate. The tower contains multiple magical artifacts and tomes that Doctor Fate can use, and only he can allow people to freely enter and leave the tower. Fate can also sense who is inside the tower and warp reality within it to get rid of unwanted intruders.

Abilities

Doctor Strange

Doctor Strange’s powers come from three main sources which were deemed the Three-Fold Path by Agamotto. The first, Arcanum Ego involves Strange drawing upon his own life force and spiritual energy. Arcanum Eco involves drawing upon magical energy from the area around Strange, which often comes in the form of elemental spells and attacks. Finally, there is Arcanum Exo, the type of magic that Strange utilizes the most which draws power from deities, which he can call for aid in a battle. Many people have said that Doctor Strange is as powerful as the gods he invokes, so let’s take a look.

Vishanti Ivoking

When it comes to what is Strange’s most trusted source, it is hands down the Vishiantai. The sources of the spells are from the Vishanti gods known as Hoggoth, Oshtur and Agamotto. Yes, that Agamotto. They give Strange multiple abilities and magical spells.

• Conjurer's Spheres: Conjures a magical sphere around him which drains the magical power in the area to weaken the attacks and sorcerer's alike
• Mystical Sleep: Creates a blanket of magical energy that puts people to sleep once they are under the blanket of magic, it is large enough to engulf an entire city
• Mind Transfer: By calling upon Oshtur, Strange is able to switch bodies with the attacker
• Mind Domination: Allows him to dominate the minds of people which gives him complete command over their actions for a time.
• Restoration: Strange is able to restore objects including his cloak
• Illusion Creation: Strange can use illusions to trick enemies as well as fool enemies regarding where they are
• Vapours of the Vishanti: Summons a magical vapour around his enemies that banishes them to another dimension
• Time Manipulation: He can call on the Vishanti to manipulate time itself

Catastrophe Magic

During a war, Strange was forced to use the Emancipation Invocation which stripped him of the ability to invoke the gods for spells and attacks. During this period, he studied Catastrophe magic, which draws on the power of the alignment of planets. He has used it to shield himself from different types of magic.

The Words

One of the newer abilities that Strange has gotten. It allows him to warp reality through speaking a very specific type of language. With the powers of the Words, he can do a variety of things including:

• Cyrokenisis: Control over ice
• Paralysis: Can easily immobilise a person or a group
• Pyrokenisis: Control over fire
• Energy Projection: Can shoot magical energy blasts
• Organic Disintegration: Can kill someone by withering their organic matter into nothingness by uttering an Alien Word

Dark Magic

Also known as Darkness of the Divine Conduit, he has been taught in the ways of dark magic by Kaluu, a fellow classmate of the Ancient One, though he dislikes using it.

• Elemental Subjugation: Allows him to dominate the minds of demonic spirit with dark magic
• Resurrection: Being the foundation of necromancy, dark magic can be used to raise the dead
• Power Absorption: Strange is able to steal the powers from godlike beings such as Shuma-Gorath
• Banishment: Dark magic can be used to banish gods into other dimensions

Crimson Bands of Cyttorak

When Strange invokes the power of Cyytrok he can create bindings in order to trap enemies as well as restrain them in order to prevent them from using attacks to counter it. They are extremely difficult to break even for gods. They can also be used to transport someone to a different location. While they are difficult to break, there are beings strong enough to break them which has been shown through Strange himself.

Seven Rings of Raggadorr

This basically acts like a defensive version of the Crimson Bands with seven layers of defense. It is also capable of surrounding the entire USA. It can also be used to restrain foes.

Images of Ikonn

All magicians have some sort of deception technique and Strange is no different. He is able to cast illusions which can deceive extremely powerful beings such as Galactus.

Flames of the Faltine

Doctor Strange can call on the powers of Faltine in order to create mystical fire. Doctor Strange usually uses this for attacking but they are also useful for protecting Strange, restraining someone and dimensional portals. They are strong enough to hurt magical entities such as the Ghost Rider.

Shades of the Seraphim

This is Strange’s most used defensive spell which works as a magical shield that protects him from both magical and physical damage. It is strong enough to tank an exploding planet, resist magical attacks from Dormammu and reflect attacks.

The Seal of the Vishanti

Much like a crucifix to a vampire, no evil sorcerer can look upon the Seal of the Vishanti without recoiling in pain. It can also be used as a test to see whether one is a sorcerer who walks in the light, as Black Mages would face great difficulty in tracing the seal.

The Montesi Formula

A spell that is specifically designed in order to kill vampires. Once Dr. Strange used it to destroy all vampires on Earth.

The Incantation of Oblivion

Arguably one of Strange’s most powerful spells. It allows his enemy to behold Oblivion itself, being locked in an endless void of absolute nothingness in its entirety.

Invisible Shields of Everlasting Enchantment

This is a shield spell like the Shades of Seraphim but it works in a different way, as it protects Strange from attacks automatically, without him having to consciously cast it.

Other Spells

Doctor Strange has used a bunch of different spells throughout the years. These aren’t as well known as his most iconic ones but we might as well mention them.

• Bolts of Balthakk: Doctor Strange fires a bolts of concussive force to knock an enemy out without killing them
• Fangs of Farallah: This is the spell that Doctor Strange uses for the nullification of spells
• Demons of Denak: Channels demonic energy
• Moons / Mists of Munnopor: Can be used for a variety of things including illusion creation, creating gas and dimensional banishment.
• Icy Tendrils / Wastes of Ikthalon: Creates ice.
• Chains of Krakkan: Creates chains that are used for binding
• Vapors / Vipers of Valtorr: Mostly creates illusions but can be used for banishment.
• Mists of Morpheus: Create mists that put people to sleep
• Nirvalon: Can nullify some powerful individuals.
• Seven Suns of Cinnibus: Creates extreme heat and light.

Doctor Fate

Doctor Fate gets all of his many, many mythical abilities from the Nabu. Doctor Fate doesn’t have to say a magical word or use gestures in order to cast a mythical spell, and instead uses his spiritual connection to Nabu in order to cast them. Basically, all he needs to do is visualise the spell and then he can make it happen. Doctor Fate’s abilities and powers can break the laws and logic of reality - as long as he has the willpower, he can make it happen.

Due to Nabu’s training, Kent also has super strength, super speed and super durability. While he generally wields the Power of Order, he can wield the Power of Chaos as well. Doctor Fate’s reality bending powers make him one of the most powerful magical beings in the DC Universe.

Side Note: While there are multiple Doctor Fates, for the most part they all have the same abilities and powers. So while we will be focusing mostly towards Kent Nelson since he’s the most common Doctor Fate, you may see some scans/feats of the other Doctor Fates in this blog.

Energy Blasts

Fate’s main method of attack is firing energy blasts from his hand. These energy blasts usually take the form of ankhs (which is a recurring motif) and he can control them to make as large or as small as he wants. If Fate’s magical energy is drained then these energy blasts will become less effective.

Energy Absorption

Doctor Fate is able to manipulate energy on a massive scale. He is able to use the “unlimited” energy stored in his body to do various things but he can also absorb more energy from his foe by “thinking clearly”. The power he absorbs can be added to his unlimited resource of energy meaning that it’s very unlikely that he will ever run of energy. His energy manipulation is powerful enough that he can absorb energy from a Lord of Chaos which are on par with Nabu.  

Flight

Doctor Fate has the ability of flight, even if he flies into space it has no negative effects on him. He can keep up with Jay Garrick who has been shown keeping up with Barry Allen and Wally West. He has also been shown to fly as fast as Superman, which should put his flight speed at the very least massively faster than light.

Dimensional Travel/Teleporting

Doctor Fate is able to go across dimensions as well as teleport himself to another universe which was shown through him teleporting to Earth One and Earth Two. He can also bring other people to different universes which was shown during the Justice League/Society Crossover when he brought the two teams together. He can also apparently teleport someone into the space-time continuum.

Matter Manipulation

Doctor Fate is able to manipulate/shift the very atoms of the universe to his liking. It can affect objects, places and people on a subatomic level, completely changing their appearance. He can also absorb matter which converts into energy as well as reassemble atoms which was shown when Doctor Fate manipulate the atoms of Alan Scott’s Constructs so that it would reassemble.

Construct Creation

Like a Green Lantern, Fate is able to to make constructs. Anything that Fate can think of he can make. He can make a giant ankh to stab foes, bubble shields in order to protect himself, a giant sword and shield for close range combat, a giant mouse trap in order to trap enemies alongside Cages. This makes him extremely versatile in combat as he can create basically anything he wants for a particular situation.

Reality Manipulation

Fate is able to manipulate reality, capable of restoring Earth after it had been destroyed in a battle with a Lord of Chaos. He can also warp the fundamental rules of reality like giving life to inanimate objects. Doctor Fate is also able to manipulate resist reality-warping as well.

Soul Manipulation

Doctor Fate is able to manipulate and calm down the soul of another being, which he most notably used in the battle with a Lord of Chaos, pacifying it with just his soul, and did again to a corrupted angel. He is also able to extract souls.

Magic Sense

Doctor Fate is able to sense other magic users and go to their location. He can sense magic through dimensions as well as tune into the cosmos and sense events that involve magic that are about to come.

Force Fields

Fate can create force fields in order to protect himself and others.They are able to withstand attacks from the god Aquarius. They can also be used to keep enemies from moving, which he used against Solomon Grundy during their battle (alongside Alan Scott). These forcefields are able to reach the size of a planet.

Elemental Manipulation

He is also able to manipulate the elements while in combat:

• Pyrokinesis: Doctor Fate is able to blasts of fire from his hands like a flamethrower. This can easily burn anything that comes into contact with it. He can also create a miniature sun in his hands. He has also learned a flame spell from the Lost Book of Thoth.
• Aerokinesis: Can channel the wind in order to get people to safety
• Geokinesis: Can manipulate the ground/earth while he fights in order to change the battlefield to his advantage
• Hydrokinesis: Can create giant rain storms as well as blasts of water.
• Electrokinesis: Can fire electricity from his hands

Time Manipulation

Doctor Fate is able to manipulate time to some extent. He has the ability to travel to both the past and the future and is able to freeze people in time as well as create a rift in time. He is also able to artificially age people at will.

Telekinesis

Doctor Fate is able to telekinetically manipulate objects. For example, he is able to manipulate the trajectory of bullets as well as that one time he threw a person into space. His most impressive telekinetic feat was when he tossed a planet into the sun.

Telepathy

Doctor Fate is one of the strongest telepaths in the DC Universe. He can do this through mental communication as well as using Ankh Probes. He can communicate telepathically with others, as well as absorb the memories and thoughts of others into his own mind (as well as manipulate their thoughts and actions mentally, which can allow for some memory erasure). Using his telepathic abilities he is also able to dispel illusions, and he has mental shields which are powerful enough to resist full-on mental attacks from gods. His telepathy is so strong that it can reach through dimensions.

Summoning/Channeling

Fate is able to summon as well as channel the power of other gods, creatures and beings to aid him in battle. He is able to call on the power of Christ as well as summon lovecraftian abominations in order to help in combat. He can also contact the gods to lend him his strength, which gives him a significant boost in power.

Other Magical Abilities

Doctor Fate has demonstrated several other magical attacks and abilities throughout his run such as:

• Phasing: Can move through attacks as well as other objects.
• Resurrection: Can bring people back to life.
• Immorality: Doctor Fate claims that his body is immortal (which is not true), but he has managed to survive a death field that causes instant death just by entering.
• Restoration: Doctor Fate can restore objects and once restored the Earth
• Body Manipulation: Doctor Fate can change his size to be bigger than planet Earth  and constantly duplicate himself

Forms

Doctor Strange

Astral Form

Doctor Strange can manipulate his spiritual energy in order to create an astral projection. This Astral Form makes his physical form unable to move, but it allows him to travel without having a physical body. Effectively turning into a ghost, this makes Strange intangible meaning most attacks will simply pass through him as well as being able to possess people (which gives him the ability to channel his power through them). There are some downsides to using the Astral Form in a sense that his magical abilities aren’t as potent unless he has the Ring of Full Power. He also can’t stay forever in his Astral Form (he has a 24 hour limit).

Eternity Strange

Doctor Strange can call upon the powers of Eternity, which is Marvel’s personification of the entire Marvel universe. This significantly increases his magical abilities to the point he becomes one of the strongest beings in the Marvel universe. However, he will usually do this as an absolute last resort, only using it when there is an enemy that is dangerous enough to destroy the universe.

Doctor Fate

Nabu

“Nabu asserting his dominance over everything ever”

- GB, when this joke wasn’t outdated (which could be release date for all he knows)

Nabu himself can also manifest on the physical plane to attack. However, it is extremely taxing to him so he tends to rely a human host in order to keep in the physical plane. But if Kent is incapacitated or killed, Nabu can manifest himself. Nabu is the strongest Lord of Order and thus strong enough to battle the JSA who consist of some of the most powerful heroes in the DC Universe and has fought the likes of Mordu and the Spectre - the literal Wrath of God.

Fusion Fate

This is by far the strongest form of Doctor Form and appears after merging the essence of Kate, Inza Nelson and Fate. This form is able to sense threats across the multiverse and is able to manipulate both Order and Chaos Magic. Doctor Fate in this form was able to curb stomp the union of Ynar and Vandaemon which was threatening the multiverse.

Feats

Doctor Strange

Overall

• Has been on many superhero teams including: Illuminati, Avengers of the Supernatural, Defenders
• Has been dubbed the Sorcerer Supreme
• Defeats Mordo in all their times fighting
• Defeated the Master of the Dream Dimension - Nightmare
• Defeated the King of Vampires, Dracula
• Dr. Strange fought Zom, an extradimensional entity whose power was so vast that Eternity feared it
• Overcame Mistress Death after fusing with Eternity
• Defeated his old master, the Ancient One
• Death stated that it’s too much of a hassle to kill Strange
• Passed the tests of the Living Tribunal
• For comparison, the Living Tribunal is the second most powerful character in all of Marvel, only falling short to the One Above All, who is Marvel’s version of God

Power

• Staggered Galactus
• Forced a living star to go supernova and collapse into a black hole before hurling it into the Wheel of Change.
• Used all of his power to reverse the True Wheel of Change, causing the universe to turn in on itself.
• Inscribes a mystic circle and seal using the very soul itself. Strange then wielded that power, described as pure life itself and capable of shaping or shaking a universe
• Doctor Strange is able to overcome Death itself after merging with Eternity
• Defeats clone versions of Namor and Hulk in one hit
• Destroys the ego of the Ancient One, banishing Shuma-Gorath
• Dr. Strange fights Zom, an extra dimensional entity whose power was so vast and feared that Eternity, the embodiment of all there is and while he was not able to kill him. He was able to imprison him
• Causes the moon to explode
• Dr. Strange destroys the entire dimension
• Matched the power of Adam Warlock
•         Notice how Warlock had the Infinity Gauntlet

Speed

• Outran the Big Bang
• Travels so fast that he creates a time loop
• Dodged strikes from Dormammu
• Flies so fast that time appears suspended
• Reacts to laserfire shot at him by Yandroth
• Reviews a hundred spells in a second
• Flew from the edge of the universe to Adam Warlock in mere seconds after being teleported away by the Infinity Gauntlet 
• Outspeeds Umar's spell and creates a counterspell in time
• Moves almost so fast that Umar, who is almost equivalent to Dormammu in power was caught unaware

Durability

• Nightmare, even in his own dimension, can’t directly harm Strange with his enchantments
• Survived being collapsed into 2D
• Survives the In-Betweener’s reality-warping assault which sent him across dimensions, time, and even to the end of Infinity which causes mental insanity
• Survived hits from the Juggernaut. Keep in mind that the Juggernaut has gone up against the likes of the Hulk. The Juggernaut can also cause magnitude 4.8 earthquakes.
• Strange survives the atomic energy at the Sun’s core which can even trigger the destruction of astral forms
• Strange's shield protects him from the maelstrom that was tearing across the void of Eternity
• Strange's mystic shield protects him against a maelstrom of cosmic winds, which Dormammu states can "topple planets from their orbits"
• Tanks a supernova which changes into a blackhole
• Blocks a barrage of mystic bolts from Umar, Dormammu's sister
• Shield protects him from Umar's most potent beam
• Gets crushed under a pure column of force  generated by Umar
• Tanks blows from the Mindless Ones, keep in mind this was when Strange which significantly exhausted in shields and magical power. Even the Hulk wasn’t able to hurt the Mindless Ones.

Doctor Fate

Quick Note: Doctor Fate was not affected by Crisis on Infinite Earths. So Pre-Crisis feats will be counted as well.

Overall

• Is a founding member of the Justice Society
• Helped found Justice League International
• Helped defeated the Lords of Chaos several times
• Defeated Pre-Crisis Martian Manhunter and Superman
• Has defeated several gods including a Mayan God
• Has had 50,000 years of combat experience against the Lords of Chaos due to the Helmet of Fate containing the memories of the previous Fates
• One of the few people that tapped into the power of creation. The explosion was so great that it could be felt across the multiverse.
• Is the most powerful sorcerer in the DC Universe
• Fought the Spectre (one of DC’s most powerful characters) several times. One time the Spectre had to go full-out in order to defeat Nabu.
• Owns Pre-Crisis Superman
• Defeated Ynar and Vandaemon to save the multiverse through Kent fusing with his Wife to become Triumvirate Fate. Keep in mind that both Ynar and Vandaemon were powerful enough enough to disrupt the multiverse and threaten the balance that allowed it to exist.

Power

• Fate and Spectre physically hold the destruction of the universe in their hands
• When Fate taps into the power of creation it is so powerful that the effect is felt across dimensions
• Nabu is the most powerful Lord of Order
• Defeated Ynar and Vandaemon to save the multiverse after Doctor Fate became his most powerful foe. Ynar and Vandemon were capable of destroying the multiverse.
• Fate has been able to fight the Spectre numerous times and has even survived the Spectre throwing him through infinite dimensions and the end of time. Spectre was much more powerful than Pre-Crisis Superman who could destroy solar systems by sneezing and was described as the most powerful being in all of creation - something that could easily destroy multiple universes if he wanted to.
• The Helmet of Fate can endanger all of creation
• Knocked out an evil Superman through physical force
• Is physically strong enough to lift an airplane
• Has matched the Lord of Chaos Mordu several times. Considering that Mordu is as powerful as Nabu that’s impressive.

Speed

• Moved several miles in a second
• Easily dodged a bloodlusted Superman and Martian Manhunter who are both massively faster than light
• Dodged a punch from Typhon
• The Helmet outraces the Big Bang. In order to do such a feat it would at the very least requie speed decillions of times the speed of light past 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000c. And yes, Doctor Fate scales to this
• However, the Helmet wasn’t moving on it’s own. Shazam threw the Helmet so hard, it could travel at that speed and it’s unclear whether or not the Helmet did any maneuvering at the time
• Fate keeps up with Golden Age Flash. Jay Garrick’s speed has been compared to the god Mercury. Jay Garrick also has had feats comparable to the other Flash putting him as MFTL which Fate scales to.

Durability

• Was able to tank and regenerate from being impaled.
• His body is pure force when he wills it meaning he cannot be hurt through physical means
• Has tanked hits from the Spectre, one of the most powerful beings in the DC Universe
• Doctor Fate tanks magic lightning as well as regular lighting
• Takes a hit from Ultraman
• Takes a hit from a mind-controlled Superman
• Survived an atomic burst
• Survives in a place where nothing is real, and reality is nothingness
• Gets thrown through infinite dimensions by the Spectre

Weaknesses

Doctor Strange

Doctor Strange, despite what his crazy powers and abilities may have you believe, is still human and thus also susceptible to poiniouses gases. He can also be taken by surprise and knocked out rather easily. But Strange’s biggest weaknesses comes in the form of the fact in order to do most of his magical attacks, he needs to make complex hand movements as well as say the magical words meaning that the best way to defeat Doctor Strange in battle is often just to bound/gag him which renders him pretty helpless. His other main weakness comes in the form of the invoking powers - he basically calls on the power of the gods but they do not have to help him. In fact, the gods have downright refused several times which is a pretty big problem especially in the middle of battle.  

Doctor Fate

Fate’s greatest weaknesses is, well… his Helmet. While it is also his greatest strength and the source of his power, if the Helmet is removed not only will it completely remove Nabu’s power but it also rob Kent of his memories as Doctor Fate, disorientating him which his enemy can take advantage of and kill him. There’s also the fact that Kent at the very end of the day is still human and as such is weak to poisonous gases and suffocation. There’s also the fact that Doctor Fate’s magical abilities can be drained over the course of a long battle, which will significantly weaken him and require him to rest.

Summary

Doctor Strange

“Do you know what is the greatest gift anyone can receive in his lifetime? The greatest gift we can receive is to have the chance, just once in our lives, to make a difference. Do you understand how many times you made a difference? Enough for a hundred lifetimes.”

Advantages:

• Is more versatile in terms of magical attacks than Fate (while Fate is able to create constructs of anything, he doesn’t use this ability to the fullest extent)
• Has superior equipment to Doctor Fate (outside of the Helmet of Fate)
• Has a slight edge in travel speed 
• Has more feats than Fate

Disadvantages:

• Is simply outclassed in power and durability when it comes to Fused Fate, though they are fairly equal in base form
• Fate is more intelligent and a better strategist than Strange
• Simply gets trounced in terms of experience (Fate has fought beings for thousands, if not millions of years)
• Strange doesn’t have much for countering Fate’s reality manipulation
• It would be extremely difficult for Strange to be able to remove Fate’s helmet mid-fight
• Is slower than Fate in terms of combat speed due to his reliance on incantation

Doctor Fate

"I see everyone's fate but my own. Sometimes that scares me. But when I see the future of someone such as yourself, I believe in tomorrow again."

Advantages:

• While base!Fate is fairly equal to base!Strange in terms of power and durability, with Strange having the slight edge in travel speed, Fused Fate utterly trump's even Eternity Strange
• Fate is more intelligent and a better strategist than Strange
• Fate has the considerable experience edge
• Fate’s extremely impressive reality manipulation is a trump card against Strange 
• It would be extremely difficult for Strange to be able to remove Fate’s helmet mid-fight
• Is faster than Strange in terms of combat speed

Disadvantages:

• Fate is less versatile in terms of magical attacks than Strange versatile (even with the ability to make constructs)
• Has inferior equipment to Doctor Strange outside of the Helmet of Fate 
• Slower travel speed
• Has less high-end showings than Strange (though Fate’s highest feats trump Strange's) 

Verdicts

Grand Blazer

(It ain’t a PhD that makes you the best magician around.)

Well, we had a good streak of four episodes introducing two series that we’ve never seen in Death Battle before, and while I wish the break in the streak wasn’t caused by a Marvel VS DC match, I’m willing to make an exception on this one since it’s actually pretty cool.

That being said, I’m gonna keep this short. I don’t know much about the specific magic spells and such that these guys both possess, but from what I can tell, they both have options to end the fight right away and to fuck with certain things the other has going on, so I’ll just go with the numbers.

Doctor Strange is a little faster.

Doctor Fate is a lot smarter, more experienced, and when you get these two to their maximum, he’s a lot stronger and tougher too. Even coupled with the whole “insta-kill” things that may be lying around, I don’t think a bit of a speed advantage is gonna do Strange enough to beat every other stat Nelson is holding over him. And I’m sure if he manages to figure out that Strange NEEDS incantations and stuff, Fate can just magic up some duct tape to cover his mouth or something. That’s probably not hard to create, right?

Rough draft lowest low verdict. Check following for expansions. Apologies to Blatherstone Chronicaltits, but as good a doctor as you may be, I don’t think you’ve got any cure for death in that magic hat of yours.

RocketTrashPanda

(We’re in the endgame now.)

Here's a very quick guideline to understanding how Marvel vs. DC matches work most of the time:

• If the two characters fighting are street level characters or lack crazy stupid powers or abilities that break the fabric of reality, the Marvel character is more likely to win. See: Batman vs. Black Panther, Venom vs. Bane, Green Arrow vs. Hawkeye.
• If said fighters do possess the aforementioned stupid powers, then the DC character wins. See: Thor vs. Wonder Woman, Hulk vs. Doomsday, and this fight.

Point is that if you understand this truth then things are going to be easy and you too can understand even more grander truths... like the futility of life as we all exist only to be devoured by the Cosmic Owl.

Such is the course of nature. (It’ll be a sweet ride, up until that point.)

Anyway, there's only one real response to how this fight ends: Brendadirk Candycrush is fated to lose. Doctor Fate wins. I’ve sort of accepted that and thus you’ll see me picking Dr. Fate to win this because he’s the better wizard and also because I need to keep my as-of-now 7-win streak in terms of predictions.

If Bukkake Humperdinck wins this though, I can let my streak die with no regrets. Like how it could have been with Crash. Or Jotaro. Or Spider-Man 2099. Or Thor. Or Nathan Drake. Or--

The Gaming News Guy

(Decided to use this song since it's cool as hell.)

Oh boy, this fight. While i wanted Aquaman vs Namor and Thanos vs Darkseid to happen more than this fight, i am still glad it is happening and woo boy, this fight is strangely one of the closest DB have done recently because both are absurdly powerful like beyond broken. Let’s go into a bit more detail shall we.

How do they measure up in terms of stats, well they are fairly equal with both displaying Universe Level feats. In terms of Destrucity Capability - Doctor Fate’s best feats are defeating Ynar and Vandaemon who were Multiverse Level threats and together nearly caused the collapse of the multiverse. However, he definitely couldn’t defeat these two at his base form (it required him to go into his most powerful form in order to beat them) but he has matched other Universe Destroying Beings such as the Spectre and has faced off against Pre-Crisis Superman and Martian Manhunter who displayed Universe Level feats (Superman being able to push himself himself towards the centre of the big bang and fought against Darklord Maaldor who was easily capable of creating a new universe. So Doctor Fate should very easily be Universe Level since he has fought against Universe Level Foes as well as his feat with the Spectre which was holding the Destructive Energy of a Universe.

So in terms of Destructive Capability - Doctor Fate is Universe Level for sure but what about Doctor Strange, does he have any noticable Universe destroying feats? Well absolutely - Doctor Strange once Used all of his mystic might to reverse the True Wheel of Change causing the universe to turn in on itself which is a Universe Level Feat but that’s not the only case of Strange being Universe Level. He also once fought and defeated the Dread Dormammu who has been shown able to easily destroy dimensions/universes as well as his Eternity Form being the Entire Marvel Universe. So both of these characters are at the very least Universe Level in terms of destructive capability - so who wins?. Well i would say that Strange has displayed more Universe Level Feats while Doctor Fate has beaten more enemies who were at Universal but him defeating a multiversal threat like Ynar/Vandaemon put him slightly higher than Strange even at his max potential but it is close.

In terms of speed, this is a tricky one. There has been much debate on the whole - the Helmet of Fate being able to outrace the big bang and with recent facts coming into light. Sadly - that feat has become a lot more iffy since it was shown that Captain Marvel/Shazam threw the helmet of fate which then outan the Big Bang making it much harder to say for definite that The Helmet and by association - Doctor Fate is fast enough to outrun the big bang. However, despite this. Doctor Fate does have some noticeable speed feats that can be used. Doctor Fate has kept up with the likes of Superman as well as Jay Garrick - who has been comparable to speed to the god of Mercury and has displayed speed feats comparable to the other Flashes which puts Fate’s speed at Massively Faster than Light.

What about Strange then, well unlike Fate - he does have an outracing big bang feat that has been mentioned in the feats section. In order to do this - this would put him at the very least speed decillions of times the speed of light past 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000c which is extremely fast and is faster than Fate’s Massively Faster than Light Scaling so overall in terms of travel/reaction speed that Strange has the edge. Notice how i just said travel and reaction speed - well in combat it could be argued that Fate is faster due to Strange’s overreliance on magical incarnations while Fate just has to motion with his fingers or use his mind and the magic happens. So overall i do think Fate is faster when it comes to combat but in terms of travel speed i think Strange has him beat.

In terms of durability, both have taken a lot of punishment. In terms of Fate, i would argue that his feat would be when the Spectre threw him into into a place with infinite dimensions as well as being thrown into the complete void - where there is absolute nothingness. Fate also has taken hits from the likes of the Spectre who is powerful enough to destroy a universe as well as the likes of Pre-Crisis Superman and Ultraman with Pre-Crisis Superman displaying universe busting feats.

As for Doctor Strange - he has tanked supernovas,black holes, hits from the Mindless Ones that were strong enough to easily beat the Planet Busting Hulk and survived the In-Betweener’s Reality Warping Assault. In terms of durability i would say that Doctor Fate does have this as he has taken hits from higher foes than Strange as well as his body being unable to be harmed through physical means making it very difficult to actually kill Fate gives him the point here.

What about magical equipment, well sadly besides the Helmet of Fate, i do think Fate is outclassed in this category. While his Amulet is extremely useful for being able to resist magical attacks as well as housing its own pocket dimension - it simply does that compare with the sheer amount and the different affects each of Strange’s many many items. The Eye of Agamotto is his trump card and beats all the magical equipment that Fate could throw at Strange besides the Helmet of course. So in terms of who has the best magical equipment, i think Strange has got Fate beat.

What about versatility and magical attacks, well here’s the thing. I do think Doctor Strange is the much more versatile fighter in terms of magical attacks. While yes Doctor Strange can create a lot of things thanks to his ability of making constructs - he often resorts to the basics and not gets creative with it - plus Doctor Fate usually relies mostly in energy blasts and teleporting as well as his superman strength,speed and durability compared to Strange who has a whole host of different magical abilities and techniques that dwarf Fate in terms of versatility in my opinion. However, i said versatility - not power. Here’s the thing with Fate - while he may be far less versatile than Strange in terms of magical attacks than Strange - Fate has extremely reality warping, the ability to make literally anything happen - with the ability to warp reality and manipulate matter,manipulate time, telekinetically read mines,etc. Fate’s arsenal while being more simple than Strange’s is also a lot more powerful. Not many how many spells Strange has - Fate’s magical attacks are simply better in a straight up fight. In terms of versatility i would have to give this to Strange but in terms of raw power in terms of magical abilities i would give this to Fate.

What about experience,in terms of experience and intelligence. Strange is certainly impressive having fought gods and demons throughout his career and has gone on many advantages and is easily one of the smartest beings in the DC Universe having extensive knowledge on battle tactics,magical techniques as well as any book you can fine, make no mistake - Strange is extremely intelligent and has a lot of battle experience but compared to Doctor Fate, he is simply outclassed. Fate has been fighting pretty much consistently since the 40s which puts his age way above Strange. He has fought gods and monsters and yet has won most if not all the times, since Fate gets possessed by Nabu, he benefits from having all of Nabu’s experience who has fought gods for several thousand years and fought across the multiverse for half a million years. The fact that Kent has access to all of this knowledge and experience puts him way above Strange in this category.

What about super forms - Doctor Strange has his Astral Forms which makes him impervious to physical attacks which you might think is a huge advantage to him but Doctor Fate has fought beings without a physical busy and has grand scale soul manipulation as such Doctor Fate would be able to use magical attacks to affect Doctor Strange Astral Form, plus there is the risk that Doctor Strange’s physical body is completely motionless when using his Astral Form which is a huge risk for Strange. What about their highest tier forms then - Doctor Strange merging with Eternity vs Fused Fate/Nabu. It is unclear if Eternity Fate and Fused Fate will be used in the fight since Eternity Strange does have some degree of outside help and Fused Fate requires Inza in order but for that it could be argued that it wouldn’t be impossible for Fate to become Fused Fate without Inza being physically there so i would not consider it outside help but for the sake of argument - which is superior - Eternity Strange or Fused Fate. While Eternity Strange is easily his most powerful form and has the best shot at beating Fused Fate - it’s simply not enough to take on Fused Fate who took on Multiversal level foes and won. Eternity Strange simply doesn’t have the power to fully defeat Fused Fate. Even if we take both out of the equation - if Nabu comes out to play - he is too powerful for Strange to beat. So overall in terms of super-forms i would say Doctor Fate has the edge.

In conclusion, at the end of the day this is a very close fight and i could see DEATH BATTLE giving Strange the win but overall i would believe in a 1 to 1 fight that Fate wins in that he has the better destructive capability feats, the better durability, the more powerful magical attacks as well as the better super-modes and the vastly superior experience compared to Strange’s better speed,versatility and magical equipment. No matter how versatile Strange is - it is not enough to take down Fate for good.

Looks like Strange is fated to meet his in. I believe Doctor Fate will win.

Brobuscus

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DOCTOR STRANGE VS DOCTOR FATE IS FINALLY HAPPENING, OMG I’M SO HYPED!!!!

Ok, now that I got that out of the way, I’m gonna be real here.

I HAVE ABSOLUTELY NO IDEA WHO’S GONNA WIN

Legit, the stats are even and the magical abilities counter each other perfectly. Strange fought Adam Warlock w/ the Infinity Gauntlet, whereas Fate fought the Spectre. Strange outran the Big Bang, but Fate has kept up with Superman & Martian Manhunter. Strange has more magic to work with, but Fate has more overall experience. I literally can’t decide. So, in what might be the shortest verdict ever, I’m gonna go with my bias here.

Doctor Strange

Sorry. I legit don’t have anything to say. I can’t decide on a victor, and my reasoning as to why is in the shortest way possible. So, being more of a Marvel fan, and loving the Doctor Strange movie, my bias is saying Strange wins.

Looks like the strangest fate has been(somewhat) determined for Kent Nelson. Doctor Strange will totally(hopefully) win this DB.

I still love Fate tho, don’t get me wrong

KirbyKid

Oh and I guess I should avoid infinity war spoilers in my verdict huh?

I’ll only be referencing how strange lost the time stone

Given how close these two characters are to each other not only in strength and durability but powers as well, this is definitely one of the closest matches on Death Battle not due to stats alone but just in the history of battles these two have been in. Strange and Fate have both proven time and time again to be one of the higher ups in their respective universe.

While Fates universe is filled with more gods that he’s gone toe to toe with, Strange has fought numerous gods himself, some of which he can summon power from, etc.

I think while Fate most likely takes power and durability in this fight from the gods he’s faced, one factor has remained constant this entire blog. Strange has speed. Meaning, Strange has the ability to whip out these spells that rival gods out first, which means he has more time. More time to pulls of more spells (all of which he has a shit ton of) more time to think of a plan on the fly, more time.. to use the time stone. Probably one of his most ultimate weapons of all.

With it he can alter time as he pleases, die as many time as he wants as long as in the end he wins. Strange has used this ability a good few times and from the MCU its powers are pretty potent.

(Slight spoilers to one scene in Infinity War)

Thanos, with not one, not two, but four infinity stones was fought by Stephen Strange (and friends) and the predictably of the stone was so strong that with it Strange was able to make a plan that ALMOST worked. (To be fair, Thanos did have 4 infinity stones at the time, vs the gangs one)

The time stone is a formidable weapon to have, and with it, Strange will be able to alter time as much as he pleases, and the fact that he’s fast enough to pull it off, I’d say he has a good chance of trapping Fate in a time loop that will ultimately leave Fate helplessly being one upped at every angle possible.

I don’t think Fate will see this one coming.

Imp

FATE VS STRANGE!!! This has been my second most wanted fight forever and I am so excited. That said while it is fairly even in a lot of areas, I do feel that it should definitely go Fate.

Some may disagree on this, but Fate seems way stronger than Strange in pretty much all major stats. Fate  should scale to Zatanna who even held in Prayala for a time! Though even without that Fate has shown multiversal showings even in base form, such as the Sorcerers helping Spectre against Prime Anti-Monitor and being able to fight Spectre without being stomped. The Helmet of Fate is supposed to be able to threaten all of creation and Nabu is even stronger then Kismet, a being who makes Dominus with the ability warp an infinite multiverse jealous with her power. Needly to say, Fate is really really strong. Even in Base I think he’s stronger then Strange in terms of stats, and way more so in Fused Form.

Speedwise, Fate should be at least comparable to Pre-Crisis Superman given he could replicate his powers, and Pre-Crisis Superman could travel thousands of lightyears in a nanonsecond and in their fight against Blackstarr, Superman and Supergirl traveled all the way outside of creation. He’s likely faster than Wally West’s Trans-Time Speed Feats since he was comparable to the Golden Age Flash Jay Garrick who was comparable in speed to the God Mercury, himself able to break the speed force barrier. We’re talking speeds of 23 followed by 24 zeros faster than the speed of light. I don’t think Strange can compete with that. He also doesn’t need to speak or move to cast, like Strange does, giving him slightly faster ability to cast even ignoring that and meaning he won’t be limited by a binding spell.

“But Imppppppppppppp” I hear you saying “This is a magic fight between two of the strongest magic-users in fiction. Surely there’s more to it then stats, what about their actual abilities?” And in there, gentle viewer, you are dead right but also dead wrong.

See Haxes do matter a lot in this kind of fight, but these two are so good, that they can essentially do almost the exact same things in terms of versatility rendering it back to stats. That said when you look at the nitty-gritty of their powers, to me it continues to favor Fate. Doctor Strange can affect the astral plane and project onto it well, and can definitely affect higher planes, but stretching himself to his pinnacle he can only sort of gain power from the conceptual plane, as he must become the avatar of Eternity to access it.

Conversely in the Sandman it is shown that relatively weak DC Magic-Users were able to affect the conceptual realm, the Dreaming and snag Dream of the Endless, sealing him. And they were planning to do it to his sister Death. Likewise, DC-Magic Users, as seen in Zatanna’s series can regularly warp reality to the point of becoming dimensions or affecting any plane of reality (such as Zatanna holding off Prayala). Indeed in the same series Zatanna explains to Batman that magic is essentially a choosing of what reality you experience. Fate is an even greater spellcaster then Zatanna and would theoretically have the full dominion over at the very least the lower 6 planes of reality. While Doctor Strange has to struggle to affect the Abstractions, Fate can essentially via sheer will choose the reality he wants and it’s concepts (like which way Gravity goes, something Zatanna uses as an example).

Also important to note, that in fights where things are close, Duplication becomes a very broken ability. While Doctor Strange has been shown to duplicate, it seems he needs to be in the astral form to do so and has never been shown to do into 1,000 of himself as Fate has, and he did it physically too! Strange is most known for channeling power but Fate can channel the power of 1,000 Gods at once, and summon all of them to help him, one of which being apparently Jesus?

Strange can cast the continual Flame of the Faltine, but Fate can use the continual energy-siphon to turn his opponent into a living vegetable and then power it with the energy he’s siphoning it from them.Strange vs Fate is a game of “anything you can do, I can do better” to me. And Fate seems to come out on top a lot of the time because Strange needs to use specific invocations as befitting the fact that Marvel’s magic seems to be the invocation of entities or things of power, while Fate conversely Fate simply via sheer will chooses for what he wants to be, as DC Magic is far more esoteric. It’s not out of the question that Fate can see things Strange cast, and simply decides he likes them and wills them to work for him.

Fate is also the more experienced combatant by far and while intelligence may be arguable in a more general sense, Nabu has a godly intelligence and a cosmic nigh-omniscience too that Fate can access through the helmet meaning he can theoretically plan every possible version of how this fight should play out, not much of a stretch since Nabu should be comparable to Kismet’s whose intelligence is so powerful her sheer light of reason can warp the multiverse.

And if they were without their powers, Strange is mostly a strong human, while Fate is still a superhero with superhuman stats and energy blasts. And while the two have weaknesses, Fate’s are much less exploitable since he has contingencies.

My one fear is that DB is just gonna take Fate’s weakness and extrapolate it far outside of what it should be, or in other words, they are gonna think Fate’s weakness is more debilitating then it is, and gloss over Strange’s own weaknesses. That said I don’t believe this is most rational. This may be Strange, but I think we all know the Stephen has met his inevitable Fate at the hands of the winner Doctor Fate.

...or they’ll merge into Doctor Strangefate as a joke. Because that was a thing.