Monday 4 February 2019

Death Battle Predictions: Aquaman VS Namor


Legends have been passed down through the millennia of Atlantis, the supposed lost underwater utopia sought after by surface dwellers who seek to witness and possibly harness these great advancements themselves. Those lucky enough to discover such a locale must be wary though; if one proves themselves to be a threat, they may just incur the wrath of DC and Marvel’s premier aquatic-themed superheroes - born to both the land and the sea, these two have dedicated their lives to protecting their homes from any threat, but only one of them can truly lay their claim to the throne as the undisputed king of Atlantis in a battle to the death.
Aquaman, the King of the Seven Seas. Namor, the Sub-Mariner. Death Battle’s fifth season will begin with a trip to the fabled kingdom of legend itself to witness these two half-human, half-Atlantean champions send waves throughout the oceans of the world and prove their might against the other by any means necessary in the next chapter of this long-running rivalry between the two titans of superhero media. Will DC’s Dweller in the Depths and Aquatic Ace emerge victorious and send his opponent to be devoured by the beasts below, or be supplanted by the savage strength of Marvel’s first mutant and the Emperor of the Deep himself?

Backstory

Aquaman
Aquaman aka Arthur Curry was born the the son of Atlanna, a Princess from Atlantis. She was banished from Atlantis due to the fact she had a particular interest in the surface world and and those people from Atlantis aren’t really found of the surface dwellers. When she got to the surface she eventually met a normal human - Tom Curry, a lighthouse keeper in Maine. Both Atlanna and Tom would meet after a terrible storm.Curry found Atlanna washed up on the shore by waves and rescues her before she can be hurt. Both Curry and Atlanna made the lighthouse their home and over time the pair would develop an extremely strong bond. Eventually the two would fall in love and eventually have a child - Arthur. Tom Curry that would quickly lead to a sentimental relationship when Arthur was born. Although Curry always knew there was more to his wife, he'd never ask her about her origins.By the age of two something strange happened to Arthur - he was playing underwater for an hour without drowning which would be impossible by any ordinary person.

However it was several years late when both Tom and Arthur would find out the truth about Atlanna. She told Arthur/Tom that she came from the learn the lost continent of Atlantis. Sadly Atlanna was on her deathbed when she was telling Arthur/Tom this but she did reveal to Arthur that he had the same skills as she did - increased strength,durability,speed and the power to communicate and control marine life.

After his wife’s death, Arthur's father decided to train young Arthur both physically and mentally to control his unique powers. Arthur was also taught mortality by his father Tom he truly believed that eventually he would become the King of the Seven Seas and the savior of the oceans. Eventually his father also passed away and Arthur decided to leave his Later, after his father's death, Arthur Curry would leave the lighthouse which had been a home to him and his home in the lighthouse in order to find his true calling where he would later adopt his superhero moniker - the Aquaman.  

Namor

Namor McKenzie(we aren’t kidding, that is his real name), was born within the mystical underwater utopia of Atlantis, located off of the Antarctic coast. His mother was the Princess Fen, daughter of Emperor Thakorr. His father was Leonard McKenzie, a Captain on the icebreaker ship Oracle. The two met after Fen was sent to spy upon the humans who had unknowingly entered Atlantean territory. When Fen did not return, having fallen in love with Leonard, a squadron of Atlantean entered and invaded, slaying the unfortunate sea captain. The hybrid offspring of this tragic love would soon be known as Namor, the Sub-Mariner.
As time passed, Namor, the heir to the throne, would soon interact with the second half of his genome, as he came upon the surface world. Befriending the human police officer Betty Dean, Namor would find himself allying with the humans against the Nazis during World War II, fighting alongside the likes of Captain America, Bucky Barnes, and the Human Torch(not that one.)
Some time later, Namor became injured and an amnesiac. Eventually regaining his memory in a Fantastic Four comic, he would return to his home under the waves. However, Atlantis had been destroyed by nuclear testing, and its people had been scattered to the waves. Furious and betrayed, Namor sought revenge upon the surface dwellers, and he soon set his sights on conquering those who had destroyed his home. And so Namor took on his second moniker: The Avenging Son.

Powers

Aquaman

Being half human and have Atlantean - Aquaman posses strength,speed, durability and senes above that of a normal human and even a normal Atlantean due to his bloodline status. The reason stated in comics is due to their adaption to underwater living. Atlanteans also possess a regenerative healing factor. During his fight with the Dead Sea King he got impaled in multiple places clean through and yet regenerated from it. Bullets and ranged weapons won’t do much to him as he will simply regenerate. He regenerates faster when in the water via water rejuvenation.

Magical Manipulation

Aquaman is able to manipulate magic through his trident. Usually when Arthur uses his magic - his eyes will start to glow gold. He is resistant to magical attacks (can also block them) as well as manipulate magic through various ways such as:
Eldritch Blast: He is capable of combinging his power with his trident in order to create an massive explosion that is fully capable of taking out an Atlantean fortresses. Through his trident Arthur can discharge potent blasts of raw esoteric power which can put down even the most savvy of magic practitioners.
Force Field: He is able to create Force Fields aka barriers of energy in order to protect himself
Physical Augmentation: He is capable of augmenting his physical strength through the use of magic.

Telepathy
Did you also know that Aquaman is an extremely skilled telepath. He has mainly used his telepathy skills in Pre New 52 but there’s no reason not to include it. His Telepathy while not being as impressive as Martian Manhunter is still pretty impressive. Using just his telepathy he managed to staff a being as powerful as the Swamp Thing - which you can see in the image. He dominated the All Knowing Dragon Telepathically. Fought in a Telepathic battle with the a being known as Kordax and eventually got the creature to kill itself - wow that's dark. Get this, one time Aquaman’s telepathy was so strong it even managed to dominate an AI and considering how advance AIs can be that’s no small feat. Aquaman was even able to read the mind of the Martian Manhunter when he did not want him to.

Considering that MM is one of the strongest telepaths in the DC Universe. While Aquaman tends to not do this he can control non sea life with his telepathy. Telepathically commands a Millennium Giant to release Superman. Aquaman's controlling telepathy is so strong that even demons will submit to his will.    
Aquaman can also control other animals such as birds and can even control animals/creatures that are dead. Aquaman being a telepath also possess psychic resistances as he can block any telepath from entering his mind. He can also use his telepathic skills to  escape Mind control  
As well as use it to break out of Hallucinating. Aquaman is also able to break out of hypnotism - for example his encounter with a being known as Maxima. Aquaman can also connect to people telepathically and talk to them. Aquaman’s telepathic ability is extremely powerful being able to not only control people but also resist telepathic attack but you know the most important part of Aquaman’s telepathically that i have failed to mention - his ability to control sea life.

Sea Life

Aquaman’s most infamous/recognizable ability is that he can control sea life. He can control any number of creatures though bigger creatures are more taxing to him. Aquaman has controlled many sea creatures including:

Topo

Perhaps the most deadly creature Aquaman can summon (he first summoned it in the Dead King Arc), this Cthulu monstrosity Topo can survive Missile Attacks and can wipe out entire Submarine units with ease and has telepathic abilities but due to the beast’s sheer size and power it can be taxing for Aquaman to summon and control but he has shown decent control over it as been shown. Secretly though it just wants a hug.

Namor

Mutant/Atlantean Physiology

Namor's is a unique hybrid of a Atlatian and Mutant which has earned up the title of Marvel’s Mutant. Due to his hybrid of human and Atlantean DNA - he has superhuman,strength,speed,durability,reflexes,senses as well as augmented vision.
His Mutant/Atlantean Physiology also allow him to live much longer then the regular person.Namor can breathe indefinitely underwater due to having gills located behind his ears. Unlike most Atlanteans, however, Namor can also breathe on land indefinitely as well. He is also able to spray water from his skin in case he ends up being set on fire.

His final trait of his natural Mutant/Atlantean body is his Aquatic Healing. Basically Namor has a healing factor,that allows him to easily heal damaged tissue faster than a human oir Atlantean but this ability has his limits especially when he is completely dry or out of water.

Flight

Namor’s Mutant Ability is that he posses wings on both sides of his ankles, giving him the ability to fly. It is not stated how fast that Namor can fly but he has been compared to a Military Aircraft so it’s safe to assume he can fly faster then Mach 2.35. These wings are also able to carry a 50-ton anchor on them without loss of speed.

Aquatic Telepathy
Like Aquaman, Namor can also telepathy communicate with all forms of Marine Life as well as fellow Atlanteans and even humanity. He can summon a vast number of marine life in order to aid him at his side including fish,octopus,sharks,whales and even a certain creature called Giganto.  

Giganto

Not to be outdone by his blonde counterpart, Namor also has a gigantic beast from the depths he can call upon. The massive proto-whale Giganto (or as I like to call him, Pinocchio's Nightmare) dwarfs entire buildings with his sheer bulk. This colossal cetacean is tough enough to tank atomic blasts, strong enough to level docks and buildings, and can shoot water from his blowhole. The downside is, it’s really, really ugly.




Weaponry

Aquaman

Neptune’s Trident

This is his main trident that he has used, while not as strong as his Poseidon Trident - it is still an extremely formidable weapon as he can easily pierce through the eye of Darkseid as well as shatter the ice from Graves (keep in mind, Superman’s Heat Vision was unable to shatter. Graves’s ice). Neptune’s Trident is also capable of electrokinesis and being able to block magical attacks


Poseidon's Trident

This is his new trident that he obtained in the New 52. When Aquaman gained the trident he was also gained new powers which will be explained later. When it's in its sword form, Aquaman need only will it to become a trident and it stretches out to become the trident:

Poseidon's Trident has extreme magical resistance and can easily block magical blasts. Aquaman’s tridents are also resistant to electricity and can absorb it. They can also absorb Radiation as well as absorbing energy blasts.It also has a bunch of other features to note:

Elemental Powers



With his new trident, Aquaman can now use elemental powers - for example Aquaman displays Cryokinetic Powers. During a fight with an Atlantean soldier Aquaman froze him up to his neck. Aquaman can also create Ice Stalagmites. In the Young Justice Verse - Aquaman’s trident also had slight Pyrokinetic powers in a sense that it can produce heat. Poseidon's Trident also gives Aquaman Aerokinetic abilities as with it Aquaman can control storms,winds in order to turn the tide of battle. Aquaman also posses geokinetic powers with Poseidon's Trident as in order to save some people he summoned giant pillars of rock. But in terms of the most powerful ability that Aquaman has gained thanks to the Trident that would have to be his Electrokinesis Abilities.Aquaman can use electricity in two different ways. He can summon thunder from the sky to strike down his enemies as well as channel electricity and fire it from his Trident.

Teleportation

Along with elemental powers - Aquaman can use his trident to teleport all around the world - for example in this scene he teleported to Missouri to the Amazon. He can use his trident’s teleporting powers to travel to other  worlds

Hook Hand/Cybernetic Hand
During an incident where Aquaman's left hand was eaten by piranhas he got a replacement hand in the form of a hook hand. Eventually STAR Labs created a prosthetic that is multifunctional. It’s main weapon is a retractable harpoon, could be drawn into its casing to be temporarily replaced with a prosthetic hand. The Harpoon can be used as a grappling hook to get to higher places. The Harpoon itself can support 2 tons without breaking. It can even spin at high speeds and become a drill - easily able to drill through solid rock. It can even distribute a power electrical charge to the enemy. The Hook Hand can also entangle enemies. Eventually Arthur gained a new prosthetic hand that functioned as his normal hand does but it also has a unique feature is that it can morph into any blunt weapon such as a shield and a mace

Water Hand

After he lost his metal hand he was given a new water based on by the Lady of the Lake. It is magical and gives him brand new abilities.
Hydrokinesis: With the Water Hand, Aquaman can freely manipulate the water. Aquaman can manipulate vast amounts of water in various ways. He can fire scalding water jets off extreme pressure and split tidal waves in half as shown here as well as controlling giant tidal waves

Namor

Namor has used plenty of weapons before - from swords to spears (though generally he prefers hand to hand fighting) but these are the weapons/items he uses the most.

Neptune’s Trident
When Poseidon left the  Atlanteans he left a copy of his trident so that it would be given to the Atlantean Ruler upon his departure. This trident eventually come into the possession of Namor - the current ruler of Atlantis. Neptune's Trident is in part made of Enchanted-Adamantine Metal. This Trident can do many things but Namor tends not to do them out of fear of what the trident is capable of.

  • Water Manipulation - Namor with Neptune’s Trident is able to control any body of water, create water elementals, speed ships and other water vehicles with water.He can also summon waves of water to propel him at great speeds, and create earthquakes by increasing water pressure.
  • Weather Manipulation - Namor is able to manipulate the weather including create fogs and storms of high intensity
  • Mystic Beams - Namor can fire mystical beams from the trident in order to hurt his enemies at a distance
  • Mystic Formation - He is able to transform objects into other objects though they have to be willing or it won’t work.

Horn of Proteus

Much his adversary, Namor can summon sea life to do his bidding. In a pinch, he’s summoned an orca to eat this poor schmuck, and used an army of fish to find the Cosmic Cube. He also has the Horn of Proteus, an ancient artifact that allows Namor to control undersea life. ...kinda redundant considering that he already has the whole ‘aquatic telepathy’ thing. In moments, he can summon an army of powerful undersea creatures to his side.

Atlantean Armour

While Namor tends to go shirtless into battle, he can wear extra armour at times. It isn’t certain how much this increases his durability but it does look really cool.

Trojan Whales

This was too ridiculous not to mention.

Feats

Aquaman

Overall

Strength

Speed

Durability

Namor

Overall

Strength

Speed

Durability

Weaknesses

Aquaman
Aquaman like Namor has the Water Deprivation Weaknesses - meaning he can only last so long in water or his abilities will weaken - this usually happens in an hour and that’s pretty much it.

Namor
Namor suffers from the Vegeta Syndrome in that he is extremely arrogant and has a fair tendency to job to a lot of people he should reasonably beat. He tends to not be the type to cheat - preferring a fair fight above all else. While his flight ability is amazing - if someone damages his ankle wings - it damages his ability to fly. He also has a similar weakness to Aquaman in that When not exposed to water, many of Namor’s superhuman abilities decrease to the point that he only has a fraction of his power - what doesn’t help this is that if he tends to  suffer from oxygen imbalance which happens when he remains too long in either water or air, resulting in manic-depressive mood swings which causes him to become angry very easily (which then causes him to not think clearly and logically). This Oxygen Imbalance also has given him a critical flaw - if he is hit in the head at a certain area then his Oxegen Imbalance kicks it and he becomes knocked unconscious - even a normal man with a lead pipe is able to do this. His final weaknesses is that if he his any polluted waters - his abilities start draining.

Summary

Aquaman

“I've worked hard to earn the respect and trust of every living creature beneath the waves -- and I take my job very seriously... so get this through your head, punk... I'm Aquaman, King of the Seven Seas... and I'm the BEST!”
Advantages:
  • While the Stats between Aquaman and Namor is close - Aquaman edges out  in Strength,Speed, and Durability due to faced the likes of Wonder Woman,Superman and the Martian Manhunter which is higher than Marvel Characters that Namor has faced like the Hulk and Carol Danvers
  • Is a better tactician and leader
  • Is much more calm and collected during battle (also far less arrogant)
  • Aquaman's telepathic abilities are much greater than Namor
  • Aquaman has the greater arsenal then Namor (though Neptune’s Trident is impressive)
  • Has far less weaknesses then Namor
  • Toppo is superior to Giganto
  • His Water Deprivation weakness is not as crippling as Namor’s is.

Disadvantages:
  • Aquaman has a inferior healing factor to Namor
  • Namor is more ruthless in combat then Aquaman who tends to hold back his true power
  • Namor has more experience then Aquaman

Namor

“In the name of Father Neptune, now does Namor the First, Prince of Atlantis, Emperor of the Deep, Lord of the Seven Seas and Supreme Commander of the undersea legions, duly proclaim for all to witness... the victory is truly mine!”
Advantages:
  • Namor has a superior healing factor to Aquaman
  • Namor has more experience then Aquaman
  • Namor is more ruthless and cunning then Aquaman
  • Namor is overall the better fighter (in terms of training then the to)
Disadvantages:
  • Is Weaker, Slower and less Durable than Aquaman
  • Is a slightly worse tactician and leader
  • Can get very arrogant in battle
  • Aquaman's telepathic abilities are much greater than Namor
  • Aquaman has the greater arsenal then Namor (though Neptune’s Trident is impressive)
  • Namor has a bunch of crippling weaknesses which Aquaman could easily exploit.
  • Toppo is superior to Giganto
  • Namor’s Water Deprivation is far much crippling then Aquaman.

Verdicts

ramonzer0
So this game came out, and this is finally canon.

Good on you kids, and a good night to you all.

Oh, shit - the verdict.

Aquaman wins. Belay professionalism this one time.

(PSA: Watch the Fyre Festival documentaries. Ja Rule must know that we remember.)

The Nerd-Bot
Hello folks! The Nerd-Bot here! Thanks to my pal Strunton, who’s now an official member of the Death Battle Research team, for putting in a good word for me. I’ve always wanted to be a part of these things, and now I get the chance to! (Maybe when Cutie Honey, Ragna, or Vandal Savage shows up, I can come back.)
I… have a very conflicting opinion on this fight happening. On the one hand, it’s the second Marvel VS DC fight in a row, and the second time Marvel VS DC was the season premier. Kinda wish the fight ended up being Kisame VS Tier Harribel. On the other hand, it’s an Aquaman fight, and I love me some Arthur Curry. Even before the Aquaman movie, he was always one of my favorite Justice League members. Whether a stoic badass in the Animated Series, or an over the top ham in the Brave and the Bold, Aquaman always stood out to me. But enough gushing over my favorite comic book king(sorry Thor and T’Challa), who is going to win this one? Well… I feel that the true King of Atlantis, Aquaman, is going to take the victory.
Given that both characters are similar, this fight could be considered even. However, Aquaman edges out in pretty much every single category. While Namor has more direct feats, the opponents Aquaman scales to are far faster, stronger, and tougher. Arthur has fought three of the Justice League’s biggest heavy hitters, Superman, Wonder Woman, and Martian Manhunter. On the other hand, Namor has fought the likes of The Incredible Hulk, Iron Man, and Captain Marvel. While these opponents are by no means weak, their power is generally accepted to be not as powerful as DC’s Big Three. Similarly, Aquaman’s feats of mental control are more powerful than what Namor’s shown. While the Avenging Son has impressive feats of mental resistance, meaning he could maybe resist a Mind Crush from Aquaman, the same can’t be said for his troops, meaning that Arthur can turn his own forces against him. Also, Aquaman’s arsenal is much better than Namor’s just to add insult to injury.

And for the most damning weakness of all…

Aquaman can go grab lunch like a normal person, while Namor gets the military on his ass when he tries to grab a bagel.
In the end, the Imperius Rex is gonna get Imperius Wrecked.

Malcolm Belmont



Welp, there is a certain meme in the community i am in. Malcolm Belmont really wants to see Aquaman vs Namor as a DEATH BATTLE and now, it’s finally happened

This is the matchup i have been waiting for since DEATH BATTLE has started and i am really glad that it’s finally happened. And no despite Aquaman being my second favourite comic book character of all time besides Dick Grayson - i will try and be as unbiased as possible when going into my thoughts and opinions on this matchup. Buuuuuuuuuuuuttttt….
Aquaman Wins

Okay,Okay let’s dial it down a bit. In my own personal opinion based on the research I have conducted regarding this fight, I legit think that Aquaman would end up winning this bout but I know the question is - why would he win.
Well, let’s go over Strength which comes down to one simple fact - does Aquaman scale to DC Beings such as Superman,Wonder Woman and Martian Manhunter - well the simple answer is yes - Aquaman absolutely scales to the likes of Superman,Wonder Woman and the Martian Manhunter for one simple reason - he has fought all three of them on multiple occasions and has shown to hurt/damage them (while i don’t think he has strong as Superman overall i do think he scales to him as he has shown being able to hurt them with brute physical force alone unlike say Batman who has to rely on his gadgets and Kryptonite to hurt Superman). Namor’s strength is consistent at best - sometimes he can wrestle with the likes of the Hulk and the Thing and sometimes he has trouble with street level characters like Captain America. Even if we scale Namor’s strength to the Hulk’s - it’s not really a fair comparison as the Hulk is also extremely inconsistent with his durability due to the fact that his durability changes with how angry he gets but let’s just assume that he would scale to the Hulk. Even then - Aquaman would still beat Namor in strength because Superman,Wonder Woman outclass the Hulk in strength and durability and the fact that Aquaman scales puts his strength higher than Namors. Even when discussing direct feats i still think Aquaman has the edge in this category - both have ocean lifting feats which while impressive - keep in mind Aquaman during his fight with the Dead King not only lifted an ocean liner under pressurized water but also threw it at the Dead King (with some weighing over 50,000 tons) and that’s not his most impressive feat.


During his battle against the Trench he moved the Oceanic plates, he did this:
Aquaman moves and pushed a tectonic plate through sheer physical force alone. A tectonic plates weigh an average of forty sextillion, seven hundred quintillion kilograms, or 40,700,000,000,000,000,000 metric tons. Even if he was pushing it done - he would still need that level of strength in order to move the tectonic plate (also thanks to Gen Lamour for that analysis and number) which is more impressive than anything Namor has done. So yeah Aquaman should definitely win the strength category


. That alone should put Aquaman’s strength ahead of whatever Namor’s got. So yeah in terms of strength - Aquaman’s got this in the bag.
What about Speed then, does Namor have a fairer chance. Well kinda but also not really. Aquaman - well we do know that he has shown being able to keep up with Barry Allen aka the Flash who is Massively Faster Than Light in terms of speed - even if we ignore the fact that he has kept up with the likes of Barry Allen. He has also kept up with the likes of Wonder Woman,Martian Manhunter and most important of all - Superman. Aquaman has also reacted and dodged Superman’s Heat Vision which even the Flash has difficulty dodging at time. He even blitzed Post Flashpoint Wonder Woman who has shown Massively Faster than Light Speed. So scaling him to the other DC Heroes that should put his speed at Massively Faster than Light. What about Namor then, well he speedblitzed Iron Man which while impressive considering Iron Man’s own speed - he’s at least Sub-Relativistic or FTL depending on who you ask. I still think that Iron Man’s speed is nowhere near the close to Wonder Woman or Superman’s speed. So if we factor in scaling then Aquaman has the edge in speed. What about direct feats then, well - Namor has catched up to the Human Torch who based on a certain calc by the Outskirts Battledome - moves over 9000 times the speed of sound which puts his speed at around Sub-Relvastic which Namor would scale to. Aquaman has once travelled Pre-52 Aquaman swam 10,000 feet per second. I would say Namor has shown faster speed in the comics but Aquaman scales to characters a lot faster than the likes of the Human Torch and Iron Man so i still say he has the edge

What about Durability - well this is easy. Aquaman has tanked hits from Superman,Martian Manhunter,Wonder Woman and Lobo without any of them indicating that they held back significantly from their attacks. Even ignoring scaling - both have suffered falls from orbit and gotten up with little to no damage from it bit i would say Aquaman still has edge but Namor’s durability is impressive due - having tanked hits from the Hulk.

What about weaponry - well this is a tricky one in a sense. When comparing their tridents - they honestly seem fairly equal with both of their main tridents being able to manipulate water to suit their ends as well as have some magical enchantments but it should be noted that both has magical resistances meaning that if Aquaman and Namor fired magical blasts of energy at each other, it’s extremely likely that they would cancel each other out. In terms of tridents i would say they are fairly equal but factoring in other weapons - i would say Aquaman definitely has the edge not only in the hook hand which is an extremely useful tool of his but his water hand which can manipulate the entire oceans to the user’s will as well as manipulate water in a person’s body. So if they end up including the hook and water hands then i would say Aquaman has the win but with just Tridents then i would say they are about Equal

Now what about Telepathy - well Namor’s telepathic skills are certainly great - they simply don’t compare to Aquaman who is one of the greatest telepaths in the DC Universe and has been shown numerous times to be on Martian Manhunter’s level - Aquaman is easily able to shut someone’s mind down in a second. Secondly when concerning fish i would say that Aquaman has greater control than Namor as not only has Aquaman used this ability more often then Namor but the general creatures that he summons like good old Topo are greater than the creatures that Namor can manipulate. I know people have argued - Namor could telepathically manipulate Aquaman - well i disagree with this notion as not only has Aquaman has telepathically beaten characters such as the Martian Manhunter and his main rival Malefic so it would be extremely difficult for Namor to telepathically manipulate him. I think Aquaman has the edge in this category.

What about experience,intelligence,etc. In terms of experience - Namor definitely wins as he has been around a lot longer then Arthur but at the same time i still think in terms of intelligence they are fairly equal with Namor may having the edge slightly but not being enough to really make a difference. They are both extremely intelligent individuals and i don’t see it being that much of a massive decider in this fight.
Now comes to the big ones and the reason why i think that Aquaman wins this for sure - weaknesses. While Aquaman has a fairly bad weaknesses in terms of the fact if he stays in dry land for too long his power weakens but at the same time - this happens at least an hour without any water supply on him so it’s not like it happens instantly. Namor on the other hand, oh boy has a lot of damning weaknesses that absolutely just cripple him. While in combat Namor is extremely arrogant and consistently underestimates his foes. His main factor over Aquaman - his flight can easily get nullified if someone damages his ankle wings. His lack of water weaknesses is much more crippling then Aquaman’s . He suffers from extreme oxygen imbalance which happens when he remains too long in either water or air, resulting in manic-depressive mood swings which causes him to become angry very easily (which then causes him to not think clearly and logically). He has a major weaknesses that if he is conked  on the head - it can knock him into unconsciousness (a lead pipe was able to do this) and even if the water is slightly polluted - his powers drain. As you can clearly see from my listing, Namor has a lot and i repeat A LOT of weaknesses which most if not all of them Aquaman can easily exploit. He can damage the ankle wings in order to make sure that Namor stops flying. He can mock/taunt Namor into becoming more reckless and arrogant (which tends to be Namor’s downfall in fights) he can swim Namor to a more polluted area to weaken his powers - hell just conking him on the head will knock him out. These weaknesses are too crippling and too exploitable compared to what, Aquaman’s one real weaknesses which while bad isn’t nearly has crippling as Namor’s many many faults and weaknesses.

In conclusion i believe that while they may be equals in terms of trident,intelligence and Namor edging out in experience - Aquaman is overall stronger,faster more durable and Namor’s weaknesses absolutely cripple him in this fight especially against a strong opponent such as Aquaman. They may be similar in powers and origin but i think that Aquaman edges out on Namor by quite a bit. Looks like Arthur will be the true king of the sea.

Thank you very much for reading my loonng verdict and i will see you all later,peace.


BUT WAIT! THERE’S MORE!
What’s this? Text after the verdicts have been finished up? What is this sorcery? Well, we have a very special announcement to make! We were hoping to do this at the end of our Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles VS Team RWBY blog, but… okay, full disclosure, we got lazy and just haven’t gotten around to finishing it up yet. But we promise it’s coming soon! Before the next match, it will be here! (And we will have put way more passion into it than this one!)
But as for that special announcement, two of our members have been promoted! Dear reader, please give some congratulations to Grand Blazer and Strunton who are now members of the Death Battle research team! Yes, complete truth, no joke, the real-deal show! They get to know what the details are behind the scenes, help out with researching the characters who may or may not win, and debating with the research team, writers and Big Man Ben himself!
“But wait! If they’re on Death Battle, what happens to the G1 Death Battle Fan Blog?” you may ask.

Well, have no fear, because the two of them aren’t leaving our lonely souls on the mortal plane. Strunt and GB will both still be hanging around the Discord server and doing what they can to help make blogs. They just aren’t allowed to disclose any information that would be considered confidential. So you prooobably won’t be seeing them down in the verdicts very much from now on, except for our own blogs like TMNT VS RWBY, plus the occasional joke verdict if they come up with something good (and appropriate) enough to post. They also won’t be able to go “hey guys you should really look into this really specific power”, but they’ll still be doing their best to help our members and guests as much as possible.
In the meantime, you’ll be seeing more of us recurring folk - Ramen, Mal, KK and RisingUppercut - and the occasional guest keep the blog up while their hands are tied. Whether or not this may lead to a decrease or increase in quality is unknown, but you know what they say: “Promise nothing and deliver less. Then again, it could be worse.”

Anyway, our beloved Guildmaster and comrade have a few parting words before this higher plane of existence is fully reached:

Grand Blazer
i swear were still working on tmnt vs rwby plz believe me
Anyways, woo! Promotions! Freaking crazy to be at this stage now! I mean, I just stumbled across this show one day in summer waaay back in time. It’ll be seven years come June. If you had told the kid in junior high that he’d be doing this during his first year of university, I don’t think he’d believe you. Heck, I don’t think he’d believe he’d make it to university, but here we are all the same! And I owe a lot of it to the friends I’ve made throughout my time in this community, and I’m not just saying that for cheese. It was in reading analysis blogs by the likes of Kirby Kid, Ultraguy, LousyTactician and the OG ODBFB that I got into making my own analysis blogs in the first place. And apparently I was better than I thought I was, because I was invited to help with their Iron Man VS Lex Luthor blog years ago, before Swan and Shade even got in there! Certainly felt cool to be a part of it even if im pretty sure i just stole arguments from other people because i didnt know shit about either but “omg i cant turn this opportunity away”.
Then back in 2016 when the research team was promoted and the ODBFB had to be closed down, I worked together with ye ol’ Mr. Malcolm Belmont to get this shindig on the road. Two and a half years I’ve been working in here now, doing research and formatting into Blogger’s then-good now-fucking garbage editor. I worked pretty extensively on Zoro VS Erza, our most viewed blog of all time (not that extensively though, since I already had Erza research done from my own blog ;|). My bois Kirby Kid, Raz and Jokerke and I went fucking ham on our Natsu VS Ace blog, even if our Ace side was lacking because none of us were reading 800 chapters of a new thing in the span on three weeks. Being in a Skype call with KK for like four hours going through Fairy Tail episodes, watching One Piece clips, reading both mangas, over and over until like 2am (it was a weekend night), trying to make sure we could get our win. That may be the most fond memory I have working on any blog, or even VS debating in general. But then again, we have Sora VS Pit, my all-time most wanted episode, our second longest blog so far, the blog that we had the most guests for ever, the blog where we all went fucking ham covering all the abilities, weapons, feats, Medd butchering tf outta the lore (still love you bby why dont you ever text me back ;,((( ), we included a shit ton of thumbnails, we started doing Fight Track predictions, and a bunch of stuff like that. It was a great time. “A Cruel Angel’s Keysis” is still probably my favorite joke we’ve put in any of these blogs so far too.
Point is, I’ve had a lot of great times on this thing, and it’s massively in part to it that I’m getting this position with Screwattack now. Being totally honest, there was definitely a period of time where I was struggling with picking between one of them or the other, but now, I don’t have to! Many thanks to Ben, Sean, and the rest of the Death Battle crew for allowing us to continue our work here, even if things a little limited.
Now, if you’ll excuse me, I have to go research ----------- VS -------. This season is shaping up to be a good way, and I can’t wait to be a part of it, both as a member and as a fan!

Strunton
So I’m the latest official member of the fan blog, having only joined last year, and yet I’m moving up at the same time as one of the original members! Funny how that works, isn’t it? I won’t talk for as much as GB has, but it’s been a lot of fun to take part in these. The discussions were typically fun minus some exceptions (*coughcough*carnagevslucy*coughcough*), and it’s just been a good time chatting with everyone and looking into all the matches that have come our way in the past year.

Thanos VS Darkseid was my last official verdict for this fan blog. Anything that comes after this point will just be for our own original content, but I’ll still try my best to help out as much as I reasonably can! In the meantime, I’ll be shifting my focus over to helping out Ben, Chad, and the rest of the SA crew as much as I can. It’s definitely an honour to have been given this position, so I hope you’ll all wish us good luck with it. And be sure to give some love to NocturnBros too!
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We apologize for the extreme lateness of this blog and how it is very unpolished. Bulletpoints are fucked up, grammar hasn't been looked over, probably some other errors in there. Full disclosure, we didn’t care enough about this episode to try and we didn't have the TMNT VS RWBY blog finished and available to post in its place. Hopefully the things picks up from here. Happy New Year, and here's to another year of killing all our favorite characters.
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