Sunday 7 April 2019

Death Battle Predictions: Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles VS Team RWBY

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While the French author Alexandre Dumas did not invent this famous maxim, his use of it in The Three Musketeers to describe the close camaraderie shared between the novel’s merry band of heroes was etched into the annals of history, and acted as a reminder of one precept: even the greatest and strongest of warriors will need allies to help them accomplish much more than they would have working alone. Two such young-blooded quartets armed to the teeth with unbreakable bonds, extraordinary weapons, youthful vigor, sharp wit and experience triumphing over their worlds’ most dangerous threats have embodied this precept to a tee, and we’re pitting them against each other in our first original prediction - a battle between generations:


Leonardo, Donatello, Raphael and Michelangelo - the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles. Ruby Rose, Weiss Schnee, Blake Belladonna and Yang Xiao Long - Team RWBY. Four of Remnant’s most fearsome Huntresses-in-training are set to clash against Manhattan’s saviors from the shadows in a fight which pits a strife-strengthened sisterhood against a brotherhood built by battle. All eight contestants have overcome insurmountable odds both individually and as a team, but when push comes to shove in a fight to the bitter end, they have one question to answer: will the heroes in a half-shell get sent back to the sewers in defeat, or will this be the day the colorful Grimm-slaying beauties say goodbye to a victory?


A Heads-Up From Ya Bois
If you’re reading this, which you definitely are unless you aren’t (there’s some kind of faux-scientific explanation here), we want to reiterate that this fight isn’t happening on the show at the time of publishing, and we’re releasing this blog between Seasons 5 and 6. Is there a possibility that more blogs like this could happen in the future? Probably. Hell, if DB ended up doing this for real, we could update this blog with any new info that comes out in the interim - we have our doubts it’ll ever happen, but you never know.


The format here is still going to mainly be the same under the assumption that this did get turned into an actual episode, so to be clear:


  • The Turtles are going to be composited across most major media sources available to them. Obviously, they’ve been in a lot, so if you need a frame of reference, we have the original Mirage comics, the shows from 1987, 2003 and 2012, the original 90s film trilogy, the Archie comics, the 2007 CGI movie, the recent IDW comic relaunch, the Michael Bay duology and whatever we can gather from the new Rise of the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles. Most of the games will be on a per-case basis.
  • For Team RWBY, they are current as of the events from Volume 6, and we will also be considering feats from the RWBY manga, the Session light novel and Grimm Eclipse video game.
  • This prediction will not be covering anything from RWBY Chibi, due to it being a non-canon series, or the TMNT OVA, as that deviates heavily from the Turtles’ origins and boasts too much power to be considered a fair fight for Team RWBY.
  • We will not be including any vehicles such as the Battleshell, Raphael’s Shellcycle or Yang’s Bumblebee. For the most part, we’ve also chosen to avoid mentioning non-recurring weaponry, like the Mystic and Cyber weapons the Turtles wield in 2003.
  • Also, we do want to stress one more rule that we’ve normally abided by on here so far: no crossovers allowed, so stuff from Batman/TMNT, BlazBlue: Cross Tag Battle or anything of the sort are not going to be included.


Lastly, we want to give a shout-out to the Youtuber named Blade-Raven who made the mash-up of “This Will Be The Day” and the Back to the Sewers intro we’ve used here on account of being too good of a song to not use for this blog.

Backgrounds

Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles

- Master Splinter


(Note: The Turtles’ multiple incarnations have differences with regards to certain details, such as whether Splinter is either Hamato Yoshi’s mutated pet rat or Yoshi himself mutated into one, and how the mutagen responsible for their transformation came to be. While we are still compositing them, the origin story below is taken from the 2012 cartoon.)


Many years ago, the ninja master Hamato Yoshi was embroiled in a rivalry with his adoptive brother Oroku Saki. Although both were close in their youth, their supposedly strong brotherhood was broken when they began competing for the affections for a woman named Tang Shen. Saki’s grudge against Yoshi only grew when he learned that he descended from the Hamato Clan’s sworn enemy - the Foot Clan; upon learning that his supposed family were the ones responsible for wiping out all that remained of his heritage, he swore to restore the Foot’s supremacy. Taking the name of the Shredder, Saki attacked Yoshi, left him for dead, killed Shen and took their only child to raise as his own as he began rebuilding the Foot as its leader.


Yoshi was distraught over the loss of everything he held dear and opted to exile himself away from his childhood home, adopting the alias “Splinter” and moving to New York, a city his beloved wife had always wanted to visit. On one fateful night, he bought four baby turtles from a local pet store when he decided to tail a suspicious-looking individual to a meeting. To his surprise, the individual and his cohorts were robots created by aliens called the Kraang, and the resulting battle that came from his eavesdropping caused Splinter and his turtles to be covered by a mysterious ooze which had mutated them based on their last physical contact; Splinter transformed into a human-sized rat whereas the turtles gained humanoid characteristics.


The newly-mutated Splinter retreated with the Turtles into the sewers, and took it upon himself to raise and guide them as if they were his own family. When the time came to name them, he remembered his childhood passion for Renaissance-era art and chose to name his sons after legendary figures of that time period in hopes that they too would grow up to achieve greatness of their own: Leonardo - the natural-born leader, Donatello - the gadgeteer genius, Raphael - the hot-headed scrapper, and Michelangelo - the young trickster. As they grew, Splinter imparted his knowledge of ninjutsu to not only equip them with the skills to defend themselves, but to also have a guiding set of principles and virtues which would guide their paths in life.


Initially, Splinter initially forbade them from venturing to the surface, but eventually gave them his blessing to explore it when they became teenagers; this gave them the opportunity to fight crime as nocturnal vigilantes whose existence and true nature are known only to a select few confidants. In time, the brothers’ duties as heroes brought them into conflict with many supervillains, including the Shredder himself, but through their many adventures, no single evildoer has managed to truly break them and the bonds they had shared with one another. Even until now, the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles lurk the sewers and rooftops of Manhattan, ever vigilant in facing any threat with a healthy mix of attitude, flash, vengeance and justice.

Leonardo



Identifiable by his blue headband, he is the fearless leader of the Ninja Turtles, a position solidified by being the eldest among his brothers. His namesake is the Italian polymath and Renaissance artist Leonardo da Vinci, whose countless contributions to both the humanities and the sciences have made him one of the most influential individuals in world history.


As the closest to their mentor and father figure in addition to being the most spiritual of his brothers, Leo has faithfully abided by Splinter’s teachings since childhood, and this reflects in his mainly serious and no-nonsense attitude in combat. He harbors the most skill in terms of martial arts prowess with his signature twin katana or other weapons, and uses his strategic mind to control the flow of a fight and maximize all opportunities to seal a victory.

Donatello



The Turtles’ resident bookworm, inventor and weaponeer, easily spotted by his purple headband. He is named after the sculptor Donato di Niccolò di Betto Bardi, known for his work on the twin David statues. Although he identifies as a pacifist and tends to avoid combat if it can be helped, he will not hesitate to use his staff and other gadgets to defend himself and those he cares about if pushed to fight.


Long considered to be the smartest of the Turtles in terms of raw intellect, Donnie has invested himself in the world of science and technology for as long as he can remember. While his overly-complicated technobabble can confuse those who may not keep up with him, his inventions and knowledge have saved his brothers and allies on multiple occasions.

Raphael



The Turtles’ unofficial second-in-command and biggest source of muscle, named after Raffaello Sanzio da Urbino, a painter and architect whose works embodied Neoplatonic ideals. His signature color is red, having been the only Turtle to keep it after the franchise moved on from the original Mirage Comics. Fittingly enough, he boasts a hot-headed temperament which helps his natural disposition towards fighting and destroying anything that irks him.


Raph enjoys a good brawl, and has no qualms fighting up close and personal with his trademark sai and hard-hitting grapples and strikes while trash-talking opponents with sharp taunts. While his fiery attitude and rebellious nature often bring him into conflict with his allies in addition to adopting an “act first, think later” mindset with his movements, he knows where and when to channel his bursts of rage to help when needed.


Michelangelo



The youngest of the Turtles, and appropriately enough, the most childlike; he can be spotted with his signature orange headband. His namesake is Michelangelo di Lodovico Buonarroti Simoni, best known for painting several works inside the the Vatican’s Sistine Chapel and an archetypical example of a Renaissance man.


While Mikey can hold himself in a fight pretty well thanks to his two nunchaku, he’d much rather be skateboarding, playing games, pranking unfortunate fools or calling people a variety of weird nicknames, all with a cocky and carefree grin on his face. Despite his jovial exterior, his fun-loving attitude hides an unmatched potential to become one of the greatest ninja in history, which he shows glimpses of from time to time.

Team RWBY

- Professor Ozpin


The world of Remnant is one filled to the brim with folk stories and fairy tales which recall the long forgotten history of mankind’s past, such as the tale of the two god brothers who created man, the Relics bestowed they bestowed onto humanity, the Maidens that represent the four seasons and the Creatures of Grimm that plague the world. To keep the peace by battling these beasts, aspiring heroes called Huntsmen and Huntresses are trained in elite academies across the Kingdoms to attain the knowledge and combat prowess needed for their line of work. In order to help better facilitate the learning process, these academies group their students into teams of four in order to help them foster lasting bonds that hopefully last after graduation.


While all have the potential to become great warriors in their own right, none have acted as much on said potential more than Beacon Academy’s Team RWBY, consisting of four girls from wildly different backgrounds and personalities: the energetic Ruby Rose, the prim and proper Weiss Schnee, the brooding Blake Belladonna and the happy-go-lucky Yang Xiao Long. Brought together by their Initiation, these four young women embodied the ideal qualities expected from their future profession in their own unique if quirky ways. They may be free to enjoy themselves as any ordinary teenager their age would do, but their resolves to fulfill their duties as Huntresses-in-training and future peacekeepers at any cost are nearly unrivaled.


For a time, Team RWBY began their own personal investigation into mysterious crimes throughout the kingdom of Vale linked to crime boss Roman Torchwick and his alliance with the White Fang terrorist organization. They also participated in the Vytal Festival tournament, an inter-academy competition meant to celebrate Remnant’s culture. However, the end of the Festival proved to be their darkest hour when the enigmatic Cinder Fall launched her endgame after months of infiltrating Beacon and acting as the White Fang’s benefactor: a Grimm rampage throughout Vale that not only caused the destruction of the academy, but the dissolution of the team when each of the girls were separated from each other at their lowest points.


However, their personal demons and divergent fates had never shaken their desire to do right by others, and each of them embarked on their own journeys to stop the true mastermind behind Cinder’s schemes: Salem, a malevolent entity who seeks the collapse of the world itself. After months apart from each other, this lead to their reunion in the kingdom of Mistral, and the reaffirmation of their close ties to one another. Now more matured and skilled than before and with the backing of their friends and mentors along the way, the new and improved Team RWBY have embarked on a long and arduous adventure with the fate of Remnant at stake, ready to face whatever challenges and problems that are in store for them together.

Ruby Rose



The youngest member of Team RWBY and the group’s leader. Cloaked in crimson much like Little Red Riding Hood, her beloved Crescent Rose is a custom-made scythe/sniper rifle hybrid she proudly customized on her own, and learned to use thanks to training from her honorary uncle Qrow Branwen. She and her supposedly deceased mother Summer hail from a lineage of mysterious Silver Eyed warriors feared by the Grimm for their immense power.


Raised on stories told to her by older half-sister Yang that inspired her to be a great Huntress, Ruby was able to enter Beacon Academy early by using her Speed Semblance to foil a bank robbery in such an impressive manner that she was handpicked by Headmaster Ozpin himself to study there. While socially awkward at times, she soon developed the skills needed to effectively lead her friends in battle, allowing her to blossom into the heroine she longed to be.

Weiss Schnee



Heiress to the Schnee family, owners of a wealthy business conglomerate based in Atlas. Much like her kin, she can be identified by her all-white outfit and hair - an allusion to Snow White herself. She wields a rapier/revolver combination weapon called Myrtenaster, and inherited her family Semblance: the ability to create Glyphs which produce different magical effects.


Despite her haughty and standoff-ish nature, Weiss hides a more noble side to herself; she is aware of her family’s tainted moral history with their abuse of the Faunus - a human/animal hybrid race - and seeks to become a Huntress to correct their path. This has led to a strained relationship with her father Jacques, who has been mostly responsible for the Schnees’ dishonorable reputation as of late.

Blake Belladonna



An anti-social cat-like Faunus and former member of the White Fang, a social rights group which fell to extremist methods and became a terrorist organization with the intent to make the Faunus the most dominant species in Remnant at the expense of innocent lives caught in the crossfire. Having been indoctrinated into the group at an early age, she swore off her violent past and hoped that the path of a true Huntress would help her atone for her past misdeeds.


When not in battle, she can be found immersing herself in the world of books, akin to her character’s inspiration: Belle, from Beauty and the Beast. Her Gambol Shroud is a multi-functional weapon that can shift between forms, and her Shadow Semblance allows her to create versatile elemental clones; both of these combined with her previous experience as a freedom fighter make her one of the deadliest Huntresses-in-training around in any Kingdom.

Yang Xiao Long



An adventurous brawler with an optimistic outlook on life, and the team’s resident “big sister” figure. Upon the death of her step-mother Summer Rose, she has spent most of her life seeking her biological mother Raven Branwen, who abandoned Yang and her father Taiyang not long after the former was born. Despite having a crisis of confidence after losing her arm during the Fall of Beacon, she continued to push forward for the sake of her friends and family.


While normally light-hearted and quick to launch a few jokes or witty comments every now and then, Yang’s true terrifying nature comes out at times thanks to her literal hair-trigger temper; essing with her Goldilocks-style hair is a fast way to get pulverized into dust. In a fight, her Rage Semblance increases her power the more damage she takes, and she uses this strength along with her Ember Celica shotgun gauntlets to give her punches utterly ridiculous levels of force.

Powers and Abilities

Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles

Ninjutsu Training



Taught to the Turtles since childhood by Master Splinter, ninjutsu is not strictly a fighting style or martial art, but the use of specialized military tactics with uses for espionage and guerilla warfare. The origins of ninjutsu date back to the early days of Japan, where shinobi or ninja served as spies for feudal lords. These warriors employed stealth and deception to carry out different missions, including information gathering, infiltrating rival territories and assassinating high-value targets.


Currently, the Bujinkan - a martial arts organization based in Japan - have dug up records from the Togakure-ryu school of ninjutsu which detail the essential skills every practitioner must learn, regardless of their mode of instruction. These became known as the Ninja Jūhakkei - the Eighteen Disciplines:


  1. Seishinteki Kyoyo (spiritual refinement): A form of spiritual education. Before and even after mastering the other aspects of ninjutsu, practitioners must mentally, spiritually and emotionally prepare themselves for their duties as shinobi through meditation. The recommended points for reflection including knowing one’s self, nature, destiny, harmony, sight, the heart and love.
  2. Ninpo Taijutsu (unarmed combat): Taijutsu is the common term to refer to any form of unarmed combat. Here, users not only learn mastery of striking and grappling techniques, but other modes of combat like mutou dori (fighting armed opponents without a weapon), koppojutsu (bone breaking), taihenjutsu (environmental movement based on spatial awareness) and senkojutsu (infiltration techniques). Some techniques here overlap with those taught in traditional Japanese martial arts like karate and judo.
  3. Kenjutsu (sword techniques): An umbrella term to refer to training with most bladed weapons, such as katana, nodachi and kunai. There is also a distinction made between schools which teach dual-wielding (nitoryu) and single weapon (ittou-ryu) skills.
  4. Sojutsu (spear techniques): Training in the use of spears, or yari.
  5. Naginatajutsu (glaive techniques): Mastery of the naginata, a polearm. These are more known for being close combat weapons as opposed to spears, which keep opponents in mid-range.
  6. Bojutsu (staff techniques): Training in the use of the staff and sticks. Besides attacks, practitioners learn to complement weapon use with hand-to-hand strikes and using the staff as a tool for movement.
  7. Kayakujutsu (explosion techniques): This branch deals with the use of firearms and explosions.
  8. Kusarigamajutsu (chain-sickle techniques): Deals with using a kusarigama, a weapon consisting of a sickle connected to a chain with a heavy weight on its end. Wielders of this often attack by using the chain and weight to immobilize an opponent or disarm them of their weapons, giving them an opportunity to strike with the sickle. They can also spin the sickle around to extend the range of their attack.
  9. Shurikenjutsu (throwing weapons techniques): A general term referring to the use of any type of throwing weapon, like bo shuriken (spikes), hira shuriken (throwing stars) and tanto knives.
  10. Hensojutsu (disguise techniques): Ninja were expected to blend in with the environment and impersonate locals with the use of costumes and proper acting, all through studying the area and planning accordingly.
  11. Shinobi-iri (silent infiltration): Ninja were also expected to infiltrate any location without being detected, and this discipline covered all the skills needed to make such missions successful. These included causing distractions, taking note of weaknesses within the physical location or guard patrols, reducing sources of sound and light, and if need be, eliminating obstacles by any means necessary.
  12. Bajutsu (mounted combat): This governs the use of horses as a means of escape or combat, depending on the situation. If the time calls for a fight, the practitioner must learn how to apply whatever combat training they have to protect themselves and their mount.
  13. Sui-ren (water techniques): To cross water efficiently while maintaining cover, ninja employed ways to move across it quietly and submerge themselves in it if needed for long periods of time.
  14. Boryaku (strategy and tactics): Aside from employing conventional strategies when the situation calls for it, boryaku deals with formulating more unorthodox means to win battles by exploiting psychological, emotional and political weaknesses to deceive and manipulate the enemy into an outcome favorable to the ninja.
  15. Choho (espionage): This particular discipline was about using one’s mind to gather information and using it to further their goals.
  16. Intonjutsu (escape techniques): In the event a ninja was discovered, he or she was required to disappear as silently and quickly as possible, using elements from the other disciplines to make their escape.
  17. Tenmon (meteorology): Ninja were expected to take advantage of the local weather and adapt to the changes within it to exploit possible weaknesses.
  18. Chimon (geography): By using the terrain of the area, ninja could employ different types of strategies and movements in accordance with battle conditions.


They have also been taught the Chi Gong technique, which allows them to slow their breathing and heart rate to survive extreme conditions for extended periods of time, such as a loss of oxygen, though this does require some form of meditation and concentrated focus.


Needless to say, the Turtles have come to master these elements after roughly spending a decade plus on training under Splinter, with occasional teachings from other masters such as the Ancient One and the Ninja Tribunal. That said, how they actually implement such strategies in a fight vary due to their own individual personalities: Leonardo is by far the most in-tune with these lessons in comparison to his brothers.

Mutation



Mutants in the larger TMNT multiverse are individuals who have come into contact with a mysterious ooze-like mutagen, usually granting them superhuman abilities. In the case of the Turtles, their exposure to was responsible for transforming them into four ordinary baby turtles to what they are most recognized for.


The specifics of what the mutagen does to the subject tend to vary based on each incarnation, but the main constant is that it has allowed the Turtles to take on humanoid appearances while making them faster and tougher than most peak humans; these traits would only go on to be honed and refined further thanks to their training under Master Splinter. Their enlarged shells serve multiple purposes as well, ranging from shields to blunt force weapons and makeshift boards to slide down slopes.

Leonardo

Leadership



Fairly self-explanatory. As the oldest, most mature and most disciplined brother, Leonardo naturally fit into the role of leader in the group. Whenever a plan needs to be made, Leo is usually the one who everyone turns to, and he has shown to a decent talent in discovering an opponent’s weaknesses a fair bit as well, allowing for a few on-the-spot improvisations.

Healing Hands



In the 2012 series, Splinter teaches Leonardo the Healing Hands mantra, a remedial technique passed down from the Hamato Clan. After performing the appropriate hand gestures, those who invoke this can heal themselves and others from all sorts of injuries, whether it takes the form of physical damage, poison or mental ailments such as mind control. Learning how to master this technique can be difficult given that only a select few individuals in history have been able to do so successfully, Leonardo and Splinter chief among them in the modern day.


This practice has its basis in the Kuji-kiri, the nine mantras of the ninja: rin - pyo - to - sha - kai - jin - retsu - zai - zen. These were said to be based on Buddhist teachings, and are meant to help its user harness spiritual energy through enlightenment and awareness of their surroundings.


Unfortunately, it does not seem capable of healing fatal wounds, as (*spoiler alert*) Leonardo never even attempted to save Splinter from death with it after he had been stabbed through the chest and thrown off a building.

Donatello

Genius-Level Intellect

He does machines! Anytime the Turtles need a new thing to combat a new enemy or explore a new place, Donnie seems to always already have it prepared. He’s built armoured tanks, burrowing machines, helicopters, blimps, submarines, motorcycles and more. He’s created several sets of monster-hunting packs, retromutagen, some brand new teched out weapons for himself, a giant mecha, manuvering gear, gliders, and a plethora of more stuff. Whenever the Turtles go up against some crazy powerful robots or cyborgs, Donatello is usually the one to figure out how to shut them down. He’s so smart, his IQ is rumoured to be in the 600s. For comparison's sake, the highest recorded human IQ is 300. Not too bad for a guy who spent his entire life underground.

Raphael

Street Fighting and Wrestling



Among his brothers, Raphael has the strongest penchant for fighting and relishes every chance he has to throw down against any opponent he deems worthy. His prowess in combat compared to his brothers is only matched by Leonardo, but even they have their differences. Raph himself can fight a traditionally clean battle, but if pushed he has no qualms about playing dirty, either by applying professional wrestling moves taken from one of his favorite pastimes or using makeshift weapons from the environment without or in conjunction with his sais.

Michelangelo

Raw Hijinks and Tomfoolery (We tried.)



As part of his oddball nature, Mikey tends to employ acrobatics into his fighting style more than any of his brothers, leading to him quickly diving around the battlefield, flipping, sliding, ducking, rolling and dodging around to disorientate his opponents and get the drop on them. This does also play into some of the tools he brings into battle; Mikey is not above bringing toys or other makeshift weapons to even the odds if the going gets tough.

Team RWBY

Aura and Semblance



In Remnant, any individual with a soul - regardless if they may be human, Faunus, or synthetic being - can manifest that power into what is called their Aura. While universally useful for anyone who can fully harness it, the best Huntsmen and Huntresses use their own Auras to uphold their duties in battle. In this respect, it can be considered the RWBY universe’s equivalent to chakra or ki, akin to the teachings of certain Asian philosophies and religions.


Aura has multiple purposes in combat, and their overall effectiveness is determined by many different factors, such as training and innate skill. For one, Auras augment a person’s ability to defend against fatal attacks, as well as their own striking power. These properties can also extend to any weapons the user wields. It also acts as a minor healing factor, capable of patching up non-grievous injuries. While these usually need to be activated on command, those with proper strength and training can easily tap into these powers unconsciously. For people with a more proper grasp of their Aura, they develop greater powers through their Semblance.


Semblances are abilities unique to individuals with strong enough Auras. These vary depending on the user, although they can be passed onto future generations through heredity for certain bloodlines like the Schnee family. Activation of such powers need not be consciously. Despite their impressiveness, overuse of Semblances can tax its users, and stress can negatively impact their effects. In extreme cases, these can drain a person’s Aura and prevent their use until their Aura is recharged naturally, but the speed at which it replenishes varies and may not be feasible in a combat scenario.

Team Maneuvers



Since assuming her role as RWBY’s leader, Ruby has studied her teammates’ Semblances, weapons and tendencies in battle enough to formulate synchronized attacks, which fully appear near the start of the second Volume. Each possible pair-up within the team has a specified codename and attack to go with it, which Ruby can call out to initiate:


  • Ice Flower: Weiss uses her Glyphs to augment Crescent Rose’s shots with ice.
  • Ladybug: Ruby and Blake use their Semblances to flank and blitz their opponents.
  • Checkmate: A cooperative attack between Blake and Weiss.
  • Freezerburn: Yang uses Ember Celica’s fire to shatter ice created by Weiss’ Glyphs, creating a mist to blind hostiles.
  • Bumblebee: Yang performs a launching attack while being propelled by Gambol Shroud.

Ruby

Speed



Ruby’s Semblance allows her to dissipate into a cluster of rose petals and move herself at speeds faster than the eye can see. Such a power has many uses; she can retreat, disorient foes by being too quick to catch, ram into them and create slipstreams capable of carrying waves of objects and people behind her.

Silver Eyes



Tales in the past spoke of legendary warriors that predate modern civilization; according to these stories, those who were born with silver eyes were not only destined to live the life of a warrior, but were feared by the Grimm for being very exceptional at hunting them down. Not much else is known about who these warriors were, where they came from or what powers they exactly possess, save for their eyes radiating a bright light when their powers activate.


During the end of Volume 3, Ruby inadvertently activated these powers for the first time upon witnessing Pyrrha Nikos’ death at the hands of Cinder Fall, not only gravely harming the latter but also petrifying the Grimm Dragon attacking Beacon Academy; the dragon remains alive but immobile, continuing to attract Grimm to the area. It was later revealed by Qrow that this was due to Ruby inheriting her eyes from her mother and his ex-teammate Summer, although he himself admits to not knowing much about how their powers worked.


Initially, Ruby has only activated these powers of her twice - unconsciously to boot; the second coming from seeing Weiss gravely wounded by Cinder much like what happened to Pyrrha. Three seasons later, she learns to further control this with the aid of an older Silver Eyed Warrior named Maria by focusing on her loved ones to at least tap into it naturally.

Weiss

Glyphs



As a member of the Schnee bloodline, Weiss inherited her family’s Semblance: the ability to create Glyphs that have varied effects, with a select few she has been shown to rely on in combat throughout the series. The basic glyph acts as a platform that Weiss can launch herself from to move around the field and perform quick dashing attacks with Myrtenaster. Her Dust cartridges can modify their effects even further, such as fusing Lightning Dust to create Time Dilation Glyphs that can speed up the actions of herself and others she chooses to enhance.


By far one of her strongest Glyphs is her ability to Summon foes she have previously defeated. As per the advice of Weiss’ older sister Winter, this is accomplished by focusing on opponents that pushed her into becoming who she is in her current state. Throughout the show, her primary Summon is the Arma Gigas she had defeated in her debut trailer, in addition to a Boarbatusk she felled from Professor Port’s class and the Queen Lancer from her attempt to escape Atlas in Volume 5.

Blake

Faunus Physiology



As her ears can so easily attest, Blake shares a fair amount of behaviors and traits with cats, given her nature as a Faunus. Namely, her superhuman levels of agility and heightened senses - especially her sight - are byproducts of her Faunus background, allowing her to have perfect vision in the dark and utilize stealth to a far greater degree than her teammates.

Shadows



Blake’s Semblance manifests in the form of clones she can create to serve many purposes. Although not as strong or durable as herself, these Shadows can defend against or disorient enemies, and she can also use them to propel her towards any direction she so chooses. How long each Shadow lasts or how many she can spawn in a single setting is unclear, although she has never been seen using these powers for extended periods of time.


The Shadows’ versatility can also be enhanced with Dust inserted into Gambol Shroud. Fire Dust turns them into walking bombs, Earth Dust creates statues with stronger durability, Ice Dust can freeze enemies, and a specialized purple Dust variant turns a clone into mist that can blind anyone who walks into it.

Yang

Rage



Unlike most other Semblances, Yang’s own is not one that she can actively control, as it is reliant on how much damage she takes over the course of a fight; the more she accumulates, she gains a power boost proportionate to the amount she gains. This physically manifests in her Aura becoming fiery, her hair becoming golden and her eyes turning into a shade of red. According to Taiyang, Yang’s blows within this state are two times as powerful as the attacks she can be hit with, but that level of power does not translate to a rise in defensive ability. Outside of being hurt, Yang also taps into this power whenever she feels great anger, even when not in a combat scenario.

Equipment

Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles

Yumi



In comparison to bows used by other cultures, the Yumi used in Feudal Japan were long asymmetrical weapons often made out of bamboo and wood, although modern variants use material such as fiberglass or carbon fiber. A yumi is noted for its rather strong draw weight, requiring a large amount of force to fire. Given their intense physical training and their natures as mutants, it is no surprise at all that the Turtles can make fast and accurate shots with their bows from any and all angles.

Shuriken



The standard side-arm for any traditional Japanese warrior, the shuriken is a quick and deadly throwing weapon - not necessarily to kill an opponent, but to weaken them by aiming for exposed areas. Ninjas also used them in other non-direct ways, such as dropping them as makeshift caltrops. As depicted above, a shuriken often takes the form of a star-like disc, hence the colloquial term of “throwing star”, but other throwing weapons that fit this category include daggers, nails and needles. A few used by the Turtles in the past have even been imbued - either through magic or technology - with elemental properties, increasing their versatility further.

Catchphrases



What? You didn’t think we’d leave this out, did you? Having originated from the legendary era of the 80s and all its campy and cheesiness, it should be no big surprise that the TMNT mythos is filled with catchphrases. And what would an analysis of the Turtles be without including some of them?


Cowabunga: The classic catchphrase to yell when anything cool happens


Booyakasha: The modern catchphrase to yell when anything cool happens (though it tends to be used by Michelangelo more so than any of the other brothers)


I Looove Being a Turtle: Typically shouted in victory.


Turtle Power: The 90s spring-into-action phrase


It’s Ninja Time: The 2000s spring-into-action phase


Like a Turtle Do: Used when pulling off something that only a Ninja Turtle could pull off (typically only used by Michelangelo)


Sewer Apples: Used whenever something goes wrong (typically only by Raphael)

Leonardo

Twin Katana



Leonardo’s signature weapons; a pair of katana or ninjato depending on the incarnation. Historically, the katana was used as the weapon of choice by the ninja’s rival profession, the samurai. Compared to swords from other cultures, these are known for their curved, single-edged blades which have been called some of the sharpest cutting tools in history.


In the majority of his appearances, Leo’s katana are strong enough to deal with any range of enemies and has no problem cutting through most substances with ease. Aside from the variety of offensive options his swords give him, he can also spin them around to deflect or parry any type of attack, and the polished steel is nearly mirror-like in appearance, allowing Leo to look at them to increase his spatial awareness.

Ōdachi Blade



A five-foot long mystic weapon that Leo stole from Baron Draxum in Rise of the TMNT. While he is naturally quite skilled at the swordplay aspect of it, the real beauty of this weapon is its Portal Power/Power Portal Jutsu. With enough concentration, skill, and sometimes just a ton of luck, Leo can slash the air in front of him and create a portal, though where exactly it will lead is a little unspecific at times. In some instances, it goes exactly where Leo wants it to, in others it’s a rather general “away from where we are right now”, and then if he’s not thinking of a place at all it’s at complete random. He has been shown to use it as both a means of escape and to redirect projectiles away from him.


Leo boasts that he can make a portal from New York all the way to New Jersey (approximately 50 miles apart), though he has yet to back up this claim due to his inexperience in controlling the Portal Power, his current record being a few stories up a building.

Donatello

Bo Staff

A blunt weapon also used in other Asian martial arts, and Donatello’s preferred weapon. While it may not be as lethal as the ones used by his brothers, it boasts excellent range and has many uses in terms of aiding mobility.


A mastery of bojutsu is done with the intent of having the staff act as an extension of the user’s body, and use of it - primarily through large, sweeping attacks and thrusts - is often complemented with the occasional palm strike or kick. Don’s staff is also good for batting objects across great distances, or even allowing him to pole-vault across those great distances himself.

Naginata



Donnie learned in the 2012 series that blunt force is not always enough, so he modified his bo staff so that he can replace one of ends with a naginata blade for lethal slashes and piercing attacks.

Tech-Bo Staff

While his brothers may have taken the mystic approach to fighting in Rise of the TMNT, Donnie stuck to his technological roots and built himself a collapsable and ridiculously teched out Bo Staff that comes with more features than there are toppings on a supreme pizza. Here’s a list of them!


  • Composed of High Grade Titanium: What other kind of metal are you gonna use to make a science thing, right?
  • Grappling Hook: Ranges an entire city block. Can be detached from the bo itself and stuck onto something else so Donnie can continuing using his weapon.
  • Rockets: The tech bo can somehow sprout rockets out of either end of the tech bo to give Donnie’s strikes a great boost in power. By throwing both out at the same time, Donnie can throw it at an enemy like a projectile, though it can be rather hard to control what it’s doing in this scenario.
  • Selfie Stick: Why not, right? Take a cool pose when you’ve done something wicked or making memories with the bros. It also seems like Donnie’s phone is somehow stored inside the bo staff. The magic of science, folks.
  • Rocket-Powered Fist: Pretty self explanatory. A lot like the rockets from before, but now as a fist, packing a bit less power but a lot more control.
  • Hammer: No rockets on this one, but it can still be used to bust down bad guys.
  • Tennis Ball Launcher: Yep. With the push of a button, Donnie’s staff can turn into one of these bad boys to knock away small enemies and annoy the bigger ones. No one knows where the tennis balls come from though.
  • Drill: Can be used to drill into the ground or an opponent. Take your pick.
  • Electric Discharge: With the push of a button, the tech bo can create a large explosion of electricity, particularly useful for dealing with any bug-based enemies.
  • Fire Extinguisher: For putting out fires, which are usually started by Mikey.
  • Chainsaw: For ripping and tearing right through anything. Or just scaring the pants off someone.
  • Laser Gun: Transforms into a gun to shoot lasers.

Battle Shell Tech Packs

Since Rise of the TMNT made Donnie into a softshell turtle, he doesn’t have quite the same sturdy backside that his brother’s possess. In order to compensate for this, Donnie built an entire fleet of Battle Shells that he is constantly seen wearing to give him a technological boost in battle. Like the tech bo before it, there’s also plenty of tricks to this gizmo. And while Donatello has a fleet of them that he can call upon during battle, for simplicity’s sake (and a lack of solid grasp on how many of these packs he has, which ones have what functions, which ones share functions, etc.) we will compositing them into one Battle Shell.


  • Air Scooter: The tech pack can allow Donnie to take the skies and fly around Manhattan, and can even take a passenger, though this seems reserved for April due to his brother’s being more than capable of running rooftops and keeping up.
  • Claws: Four claws that extend from Donnie’s back and can be used to aid him in a battle or when some machines need building, like that one Science Squid guy, though Donnie’s don’t have quite as much range. He can also use them to grab an opponent and give them give them an electrical shock that typically stuns them for a bit. These claws can come decked out with building tools too, such as buzzsaws, a screwdriver, blowtorch, pickaxe, and plenty more, along with the ability to let Donnie to some high-speed wall-crawling
  • Lamp: For lighting up those hard-to-see-in kinds of places.
  • Music Mode: If you ever need some tunes in the background of your fight or dance routine, Donnie can hook you up with them by detaching part of his tech pack to make a floating DJ table.
  • Jets: Not really used for flight so much as to help propel Donnie in a given direction (at least when he’s wearing it).
  • Jet Pack: Actually used for Donnie’s solo flight.


Infrared Night Vision Goggles



A lot of these are pretty self-explanatory and do exactly what you think so don’t expect much out of the descriptions here.


  • Energy Reading: Pretty self-explanatory. Electrical, heat, solar, mystic, you name it, Donnie’s able to detect it with these things.
  • Location Tracking: Like Google Maps. Type up a place, figure out where it’s at.
  • Tracking Device: Donnie’s got a couple of these lying around, and so every once in a while he sticks one on a thing that’s important juuust in case the Turtles get separated from it.
  • Night Vision: A pretty obvious feature given the name, right? But yeah, flick these down and Donnie’s got perfect, green-tinted vision in the darkest of places.
  • Lock-On Targeting: To make sure the purple one hits his mark

Raphael

Sai



A pair of stabbing weapons that Raphael primarily uses. Historically, this weapon type originated from the island of Okinawa, but records show much earlier use in other countries within the South East Asian region. Traditionally, their primary intent is to defend against long-reaching weapons and disarm them.


As the sai’s design implies, Raph fights aggressively by charging in and using the sharp tips to stab enemies in vital target points while retaining a defensive position to block incoming attacks. He can also use them as makeshift climbing tools by stabbing them into any surface. As a last ditch ranged attack, he can also toss them like kunai, but this obviously means that he will be without a weapon himself until he reclaims them.

Twin Tonfa

Stolen from Baron Draxum in Rise of the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, Raphael ues his dual tonfa in conjunction with his street fighting style to make some devastating blows to his opponent. He can also use their Power Smash/Tonfa Power Jutsu to create force fields to either block attacks (though they can be broken through with enough force) or increase the power of his punches. He can increase the size of these fists to twice his size, or even create a giant glowing avatar around himself.

Nightwatcher Gear and Kusari-fundo



In the 2007 CGI film, Raphael began fighting crime as a solo act when Leonardo departed for training in South America. He donned the armor of a masked vigilante called the Nightwatcher for a spell before reuniting with his family. The Nightwatcher armor seems to consist of full-on steel plating which covers all of Raph’s body, and the helmet is equipped with two flashlights on the sides for dark environments.


While he still has them equipped, Raph’s main weapon in this garb isn’t his sai, but rather a kusari-fundo. Also referred to as a manrikigusari, it is a chain attached to weights on both ends mainly used as a hidden weapon meant to non-lethally subdue opponents and disarm them of their weapons, much like a kusarigama; the difference being that a kusari-fundo deals blunt-force damage as opposed to slashing attacks.

Michelangelo

Nunchaku



A pair of sticks connected by an iron chain, and Michelangelo’s primary weapon. Stories about the nunchaku’s origin detailed it as a tool used by farmers for rice threshing, but it failed to catch on as an actual weapon due to its ineffectiveness against the armaments prevalent during that era. Modern usage of this weapon type was popularized by Bruce Lee, who inspired combining it with various hand-to-hand fighting styles; examples today include Hapkido and Eskrima, disciplines originating respectively from Korea and the Philippines.


Aside from striking the enemy with the other ends of the weapon, nunchaku wielders combine it with other hand-to-hand moves, and the chains can be used as a way to disarm enemies of their weapons.

Kusarigama



In the 2012 TV series, modifications made by Donatello allow Mikey to turn his nunchaku into kusarigama, increasing its range and giving him a bladed weapon to cut through obstacles.

Kusari-Fundo



Mikey’s weapon of choice in Rise of the TMNT, once again stolen from Draxum. Barring Donnie’s projectile-based attacks, this weapon has the best range of all the Turtles’ and can be used to either smash in a foe’s head or tie them up and throw them around that way. It will also sometimes create a flaming skull that can go out of control, flying in every which direction, though Mikey has gained better control over it, allowing him to increase his range even further, stick it onto a given surface, and even create tornadoes of fire.

Team RWBY

Dust



An ancient source of power which spans back to the origins of Remnant, Dust was harnessed by humans to fight the threat of the Grimm, and was later used to fuel almost everything in society.


Dust often takes the form of crystallized energy, with colors designating their powers depending on their element. Wind (white), Fire (red), Water (blue) and Lightning (yellow) are the four major types of Dust, and secondary variants include Gravity, Ice, Steam and Earth among others, usually created by mixing in primary Dust types with each other. These also have more practical effects in combat, which each of Team RWBY’s members make use of to different extents. Usually, this comes in the form of crystals or magazines which the girls activate with the aid of their weapons.

Ruby

Crescent Rose



A High-Calibur Sniper-Scythe, which Ruby affectionately refers to has her “sweetheart”. It is a weapon of her own design, crafted when she was still a student at Signal Academy. Due to its size and weight, Professor Ozpin has theorized that only expert scythe users with skill on par with Ruby or her uncle Qrow Branwen can effectively wield such a weapon, which reflects the historical weaknesses faced by most cultures which used war scythes in combat.


In a long-range fight, Crescent Rose can take the form of a bolt-action sniper rifle which can take in different types of Dust ammunition. These allow Ruby to shoot Fire to burn opponents, Ice to freeze them, Lightning for paralysis and specialized Gravity rounds to boost the weapon’s recoil and propel Ruby in a specific direction.


When up close, it folds into a scythe which can act as a mount for Ruby to shoot without recoil. Strikes can also be amplified with shots that increase its cutting potential, and the bottom half of the storage compartment can fold into the blade to increase its size and boost it power further. In desperate cases, the scythe itself can also be used as a throwing weapon which returns to Ruby without fail most of the time.

Weiss

Myrtenaster



A Multi Action Dust Rapier which acts as a fusion between a standard rapier and a revolver; it is used by Weiss to help channel her Semblance and complement it in most regards. Its hilt contains a rotating mechanism with six slots; they can house multiple types of raw Dust, which she can release into the blade to enhance attacks or fuse together with her Glyphs to boost or modify their effects.


With Dust, Weiss can use Myrtenaster to launch fire projectiles, release ice as a barrier or a sheet on the ground or blow enemies away with Wind or Gravity Dust. The blade can also interact with her Glyphs, like boosting the effects of a time dilation spell with Lightning Dust.

Blake

Gambol Shroud



A Variant Ballistic Chain Scythe, and Blake’s weapon of choice. On its own, the weapon looks like a katana attached to a heavy metal sheath, but those components can be combined together in many different ways, giving Blake a very versatile weapon which can change weapon types on the fly. These include a pistol built into the sword’s hilt, a kusarigama whose range and power can be affected by the pistol’s recoil and can also double as a grappling tool, and a cleaver form which combines the sheath and the sword together and can be used to fire short-ranged projectiles from.


Gambol Shroud accepts different types of Dust magazines that Blake can use to modify the effects of her Semblance, making them more than just shadow copies of herself. As we’ve discussed above, Fire Dust can turn her Shadows into living bombs, Earth Dust turns them into statues which can defend against attacks, Ice Dust freezes enemies who touch a clone, and a special violet-colored Dust turns Shadows into a hazy mist which blocks the vision of those caught in it.

Yang

Ember Celica



A Dual Ranged Shot Gauntlet which serves as Yang’s primary weapons. She originally wore a matching pair, but when her right arm was lost in her fight against Adam Taurus, similar modifications were made to the new bionic replacement she began wearing in the following season. Inside each gauntlet are 12-shot magazines, which seem to house some form of ammunition that have not been confirmed to be Dust in any sort of way.


Ember Celica’s shots are akin to a shotgun’s buck-shot rounds that boost the kinetic energy of Yang’s punches and send enemies flying far away from her; much like Ruby, she can also use the shots’ recoil to propel her over similar long distances. Special red-colored rounds can also be fired from it; these seem to more akin to traditional gunshots, save for causing miniature explosions upon contact. As such, they compliment the extensive hand-to-hand fighting style Yang possesses quite perfectly.

Prosthetic Arm



In Volume 4, Yang obtained a new cybernetic arm to replace the one she originally lost; her father Taiyang believed it to be a way for her to snap out of the traumatic stupor she found herself in following the Fall of Beacon. Said to be made of state-of-the-art technology from Atlas, its strength seems result in stronger strikes than normal, and also contains a built-in shotgun akin to the lost half of Ember Celica.


The arm in and of itself can also act as a projectile which Yang can fire to knock back distant foes, but this comes with the obvious drawback of losing it until it is retrieved. Despite the setback this would normally possess, she has no qualms detaching it manually to trick enemies or escape their grasp if necessary, and her training alongside her father covers most gaps in her fighting style if she is forced to go without it.

Feats

Note: While there are some minor discrepancies, the TMNT and Team RWBY members are all more or less on equal footing with each other in terms of stats for the most part. So to save the trouble of writing “dodged laser fire” ten times, we’re going to only put the stat sections in for the Team categories, though we will still mention who’s the best at what for the sake of those minor discrepancies. You’ll get it as we go along.


We will be giving each ninja and each huntress their own accomplishments sections however, since each team member has managed to pull off some decent stuff there without any aid from the others.

Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles

Accomplishments



  • Defeated the Shredder, his daughter Karai, his other commanders and the entire Foot Clan on multiple occasions. (All canons)
  • Foiled a plan by four immortal stone warlords to unleash their guardian beasts and conquer the world. (2007)
  • Prevented the destruction of Manhattan and even larger world-ending threats. (All canons)
  • Multiple incarnations of the team have crossed worlds and teamed up to stop multiverse-threatening villains. (Turtles Forever, 2012)
  • All four Turtles have dragons as their spirit avatars. Kon of the Ninja Tribunal says that this is inconceivable for those so young. (2003)
    • For comparison’s sake, all four Ninja Tribunal members have dragons as their spirit avatars, and they’re the ones who created ninjutsu in the 2003 canon.
  • Brought down the Triceraton Empire. (Most canons)
  • Trained by the Ninja Tribunal to defeat the Tengu Shredder. (2003)
  • Have participated in multiple time-travelling shenanigans. (Most canons)
  • Destroyed the Technodrome, the mobile base of the Kraang aliens. (Most canons)
  • Manage to stay in incredibly good shape despite all the pizza they eat (all canons)
  • Participated in the Battle Nexus tournament, which saw them fight warriors from other dimensions. (2003)
  • Despite their varied personalities and fighting styles, all of them compliment each other in such a way that they are rarely beaten as a unit. (IDW)
  • Superhuman strength allows them to leap off the rooftops of Manhattan on a regular basis. (IDW)
  • Defeated Loki, the Norse God of Mischief, as well as the mythical beasts he summoned. (Mirage)
  • Infiltrated DARPA. (Mirage)
  • Saved the Turtleoids. (1987)
  • Each of the Turtles can single-handedly take on hordes of opponents and win. (All canons)
  • Emerged successful from each of their individual Vision Quests. (2012)
  • Defeated other mutants, such as Bebop, Rocksteady, Slash and Leatherhead. (All canons)
  • Banished Lord Dregg of Dimension X. (1987)
  • Defeated Sh'Okanabo, the Kanabo warlord seeking to infect Earth and turn it into a home for his species. (2003)
  • Have crossed over with Power Rangers, Batman and Ghostbusters (Next Mutation, IDW)

Strength

Discrepancy: Raphael is considered to be the physically strongest.
  • Leonardo once pried open the jaws of a Tyrannosaurus rex to avoid being swallowed by it. (2003)
  • Raphael wrecked a warehouse without his Tonfa. Instead he used a ladder. (Rise)
  • Leo's katanas can cut through guns easily. He also did the same to Krang's metal arms. (IDW)
  • Leo pushes over a giant stone statue with a large beetle monster thing on it without much hassle
  • Did you know that manhole covers are actually waaaay heavier than they make them out to be? (All canons)
  • Have managed to break through Ch’rell’s Shredder armour and exosuit with their weapons. (2003)
    • It’s possible that the exosuit is harder than diamonds, but this is speculative and has not been confirmed.

Speed

Discrepancy: Michelangelo is considered the most acrobatic
  • Dodge laser and gunfire on the regular (all canons)
  • Ran on top of incoming missiles. (2003)
  • Can throw shuriken fast enough to stop a gun from being fired. (IDW)
  • Have piloted ships traveling faster than light on several occasions, and scale to Utroms (including Ch’rell) and Triceratrons, who have done the same (2003, 2012, IDW)


Durability

Discrepancy: Raphael is considered the toughest
  • Raphael a car smashed on top of him and emerged no worse for wear. (2003)
  • Donatello resisted telepathic attacks. (2003)
  • Raphael survived being thrown off a roof and several walls in his win against Slash, who was strong enough to beat Leonardo in a single hit. (2012)
  • Mikey got smashed by a t-rex tail and was fine (2003)
  • The Turtles have survived car crashes with no injuries on multiple occasions (most canons)
  • Managed to still stand and talk despite several serious injuries in their final confrontation with the Shredder, such as getting stabbed through the chest and having their bones broken (2003)
  • Their shells have been used to protect them from gunfire, laser fire, and blunt attacks. (most canons)

Leonardo

Accomplishments



  • Has more often than not been the one to personally kill off the Shredder (Most canons).
  • Considered worthy enough by the Shredder to lead the Foot Clan, which he temporarily did. (IDW)
  • Defeated the Ultimate Ninja. (2003)
  • Once travelled into an alternate version of feudal Japan to assist Miyamoto Usagi in defeating Lord Hebi. (2003)
  • Is often depicted as an equal, if not superior, to Karai. (Most canons)
  • Fought and defeated several Foot-Bots, Rahzar, Tiger Claw and Fishface in quick succession, and managed to stand up to the Shredder for a spell right after. (2012)
  • Defeated some weird Lovecraftian monster (2003)
  • Has traveled the world more than any Turtle, having visited both Japan and South Africa for extended periods of time for the sake of solo training. (2003, 2007)
  • Powered through Fungus Humongous’ illusions and defeated it. (2012)
  • Has mastered pressure point combat. (IDW)

Donatello

Accomplishments

  • Boasts an IQ of 680. For reference, the highest recorded IQ in human history is attributed to prodigy William James Sidis, whose IQ is reported to be 300 at most. (2003)
  • In an alternate dystopian future timeline, he was the only member of the Turtles to survive and kill the Shredder. (2003)
  • Has built dozens upon dozens of vehicles, and his gadgets are probably in the hundreds. (All canons)
  • Has successfully created retromutagen to reverse unwanted mutations on multiple occasions, saving the likes of a simple New Yorkers to an entire underground city (2003, 2012)

Raphael

Accomplishments



  • Made it to the top 8 combatants in the Battle Nexus. (2003)
  • Defeated Triple Threat, a former alien wrestling champion, with Leonardo’s help. (2003)
  • Single-handedly infiltrated and destroyed an Foot Clan armory by himself. (2003)
  • Fought crime as a solo act under the Nightwatcher moniker for about a year. (2007)
  • Though the Turtles are all in the same ballpark, Raph is considered the strongest physically. (All canons)
  • Won an inter-galactic charity motorcycle race (2003)
  • "This small gesture is for the millions, perv." (Archie Comics)

Michelangelo

Accomplishments



  • Won the Battle Nexus tournament, defeating Tjaluk, Master Splinter (albeit by forfeit), Raphael, La and Kluh in order. (2003)
    • Later defeated Kluh again in a rematch
    • It’s probably worth a mention that Leo got eliminated from the tournament due to getting poisoned by an outside source and being unable to continue fighting. Could’ve changed things a bit, but it is what it is.
  • Fought off sentient pizza monsters -- we’re not kidding. (2012)
  • Successful party entertainer (2007)
  • Took down the Sliver when four Teenage Mutant Super Turtles weren’t able to (2003)
  • Has managed to be right about things a lot more often than the Turtles give him credit for (2003, 2012)
  • Saved Christmas for a bunch of orphans (2003)
  • Dated a time-traveller (2012)
  • Has been the most consistently successful of his brothers at controlling his mystic weapon (Rise)

Feats

Team RWBY

Accomplishments



  • Defeated Team JNPR in a large-scale food fight. (Volume 2)
  • Assisted in the defense of Vale from White Fang-led Grimm attacks in Volumes 2 and 3.
  • Protected Haven Academy and the Vault of the Spring Maiden from Cinder Fall and her associates. (Volume 5)
  • Defeated an Atlesian Paladin piloted by Roman Torchwick. (Volume 2)
  • Accepted the responsibility of assembling all four Relics to stop Salem. (Volume 6)
  • Defended a train of innocents from Grimm attracted to the Relic in their possession. (Volume 6)
  • Foiled the plans of Doctor Merlot, who created several new types of mutated Grimm. (Grimm Eclipse)
  • Made it to the semi-final round of the Vytal Festival, defeating Team ARBN collectively in the first round, with Yang and Weiss winning against Flynt Coal and Neon Katt of Team FNKI and the former beating Mercury, albeit in a fight that Mercury was willing to throw. (Volume 3)
  • Defeated a mechanical elephant piloted by Iona Rockshow. (RWBY The Session)
  • Defeated an Atlesian mech piloted by Caroline Cordovin and prevented the city of Argus from being destroyed by a Grimm Leviathan. (Volume 6)
  • Ruby notably led two Huntsmen-in-training teams: Team RWBY (with Weiss, Blake and Yang) and RNJR (with Nora Valkyrie, Jaune Arc and Lie Ren). Her knowledge of her teammates’ Semblances and fighting styles have allowed her to form team attacks and alternate strategies to maximize their chances in combat. (All Volumes)

Strength

Discrepancy: Yang is considered the strongest
  • Yang punched the ground hard enough to create a shockwave. (“Yellow” Trailer)
  • Ruby killed a Nevermore during her Initiation. Subsequently learned how to kill more in later seasons much more easily. (Volume 1)
    • Nevermore can easily smash through small stone buildings effortlessly.
  • Yang can send Grimm beasts flying with her punches. (Volume 1)
  • Weiss incinerated a tree with fire dust (Volume 1)
  • Yang’s Ember Celica shots staggered a Nevermore. (Volume 1)
  • Yang destroyed Flynt’s weapon after powering through his sonic attacks. (Volume 3)
  • Ruby & Blake cut off the arm of an Atleasian Paladin, the same mech that can bust down a wall by running through it. (Volume 2)
  • Several shockwaves were caused by each team members’ battles, as well as many others that specific members of the team should be comparable to, during the Vytal Festival Tournament. (Volume 3)
  • Ruby cut a boulder in half. (Volume 4)
  • Blake broke out of a spider web trap. (Volume 5)
  • Yang’s semblance allowed her to obliterate the arm of an Atleasian Paladin, then later destroyed it completely. (Volume 2)
  • Absian, who Yang scales to, shattered a ball of ice bigger than her by punching it. (Volume 3)
  • Yang’s rage caused very small mountains to erupt. (Volume 3)

Speed

Discrepancy: Ruby is the fastest with her Semblance, Blake is the fastest without it
  • Ruby down a horde of Grimm in a matter of seconds. (“Red” Trailer)
  • Ruby dodged gunfire. (Multiple volumes)
  • Blake dodged lightning attacks from the Sea Dragon Grimm. (Volume 4)
  • Ruby ran across a kitchen so fast, the wind following her carried a bunch of supplies and cans and slammed against a wall so hard, the wall cracked. (Volume 2)
  • Weiss blitzed a White Fang lieutenant using her Glyphs to propel herself while attacking. (Volume 2)
  • Ruby jumped across several missiles mid-flight. (Volume 6)
  • Mercury Black dodged Amber’s bolt of lightning(Volume 3), Ruby escaped Mercury(shown above) and Yang has fought him on near even terms. (Volume 5)
  • Ruby is fast enough to run in a circle and make a tornado, similar to Sonic. (Volume 4)
  • Weiss has sliced at FTE speeds. (Volume 2)
  • Weiss and Yang reacted in the timeframe of a lightning bolt. (Volume 5)

Durability

Discrepancy: Yang is considered the toughest, Weiss is considered the weakest
  • Ruby and Blake have tanked blasts from Roman Torchwick (Volume 1, Volume 2)
  • Yang survived being punched through a pillar by Roman Torchwick piloting an Atlesian Paladin. (Volume 2)
  • Weiss survived getting hit by a watermelon mallet hard enough to completely break a stone pillar. (Volume 2)
  • Blake tanked getting pelted with metal cans (Volume 2)
  • Yang shrugged off a hit that was so hard, she was sent flying in the sky for exactly 97 seconds, going through the building she was in twice and landing on a wooden table hard enough to smash it (Volume 2)
  • Weiss used black Glyphs to defend against sonic attacks. (Volume 3)
  • Yang survived having her arm get cut off by Adam’s Semblance. (Volume 3)
  • Blake fell from a radio tower several stories up without destroying her Aura. (Volume 6)
  • Yang’s mechanical arm is tough enough to catch Adam’s Wilt and Rose without being damaged. (Volume 6)
  • Ruby survived a fall from great height(unclear how high specifically). (Volume 2)
  • Weiss’ ice barriers are tough enough to save the team from a train crash. (Volume 2)
  • Yang got smacked so hard, she smashed through several trees, and that wasn’t enough to break her Aura. (Volume 5 Yang short)
  • Yang got completely thrashed around by a giant Grimm beast, and she survived(her Aura didn’t, though). (Volume 5 Yang short)

Ruby

Accomplishments



  • Designed Crescent Rose by herself. (Volume 1)
  • Defeated a horde of Grimm while visiting her mother’s grave. (“Red” Trailer)
  • Nearly wiped out a group of invading Grimm, including several Beowulves and a Nevermore, from destroying a village. (Volume 4)
  • Matched pre-Maiden Cinder Fall during the Beacon Dance. (Volume 2)
  • With Team JNPR, defeated the Nuckelavee Grimm - the same type that was responsible for destroying the village of Kuroyuri. (Volume 4)
  • Displayed a remarkable amount of willpower against the Apathy Grimm, whose catatonic auras began chopping away at her teammates’ and Qrow’s own, before using her Silver Eyes consciously against them for the first time. (Volume 6)
  • Incapacitated Cordovin’s mech by blasting it within its cannon barrel and escaping with her Semblance. (Volume 6)

Weiss

Accomplishments



  • Killed a Boarbatusk. (Volume 1)
  • Defeated an Arma Gigas by herself, which she later added to her list of Summons. (“White” Trailer)
  • Killed a horde of Lancer Grimm and their Queen by summoning the Arma Gigas. (Volume 5)
  • Was voted to represent Team RWBY in the doubles round of the Vytal Tournament. (Volume 3)

Blake

Accomplishments



  • Destroyed several Atlesian robots in her final job for the White Fang alongside Adam Taurus. (“Black” Trailer)
  • Teamed with Sun Wukong to stop Roman Torchwick’s dock heist. (Volume 1)
  • Defeated Roman one-on-one. (Volume 2)
  • Led a reformed version of the White Fang in the defense of Haven Academy in Mistral. (Volume 5)
  • Gained a measure of revenge against Adam by finally killing him with Yang’s help. (Volume 6)
  • Defended Sun and her family from Iiia Amitola and several members of the White Fang. (Volume 5)

Yang

Accomplishments



  • Fought on behalf of her team through all three rounds of the Vytal Festival tournament and defeated Mercury Black before being disqualified (Volume 3).
  • Once defeated Junior’s gang inside a local nightclub. (“Yellow” Trailer)
  • Single-handedly defeated multiple Branwen tribe bandits on her way to find her mother. (Volume 5)
  • Was voted to represent Team RWBY in the doubles round of the Vytal Tournament. (Volume 3)
  • Got revenge on Adam for cutting her arm off by killing him with Blake’s help. (Volume 6)
  • Seems to be the popular choice for best girl

Weaknesses

Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles



The Turtles are arguably at their best when fighting alongside each other in order to cover for their own individual weaknesses. If isolated, they can still fight incredibly well, but this could allow each of their flaws to become apparent and targeted by anyone that can exploit them.


A recurring weakness of theirs has been the presence of anti-mutagen substances, depending on the canon, where prolonged contact with it can reduce them to being regular turtles once more. The amount of ranged weapons and gadgets they carry also have a set amount of uses before tapping out their reserves.

Leonardo



Despite his weapons being made of the hardest material of all the Turtles, Leo’s katanas have a bit of a bad habit of breaking a lot, though they tend to be rather inconsistent in how much force they can handle before they snap, as characters such as Shredder have failed to do so, while no names such as the Gom-Tai have managed to slash right through them.


Also, of all his brothers, Leo tends to have the most trouble controlling his Power Jitsu in Rise, often taking numerous swings to get his Portal Power to activate, and it’s entirely possible for an enemy to rush during that span of time. And even when he does succeed in creating them, he still shows some difficulty in determining where exactly the other end will be.

Donatello



Like Leo’s katana, Donnie’s bo staff also breaks fairly easily, given that it’s still a piece of wood at the end of the day. And while it does allow him for the best range of all his brother - projectiles and gadgets aside -, it takes him a lot longer to do some real damage to the opposition, though the recent addition of the naginata blade has certainly helped him out with this. Donnie also sometimes rely too much on his genius in combat and not enough on raw skill, which can leave him floundered if his tech stops working properly or something else goes haywire.

Raphael



As is the classic for physically strongest member of a team who wears red, Raph is known for having temper issues, which can easily cause him to lose some self-control and fight without reason. He often runs into a fight without thinking things through, and is not unlikely to disobey Leo or Splinter’s orders if he gets too riled up. His Sai, while deadly, also have the shortest range of all the Turtles’ weapons, meaning he has to get right up close if he wants to hurt anything. Lucky for him, that’s just how he likes it.

Michelangelo



As his easy-going attitude can attest to, Mikey is arguably the weakest or at least the most undisciplined fighter among his brothers. He may surely be unorthodox, and he has a natural talent for acrobatics, but he still lacks the refined skills that his other brothers have. He does well with following Leo’s orders, but when left to his own devices, he typically just tries to go with the flow, rather than try figuring out any real plan along the way. Sometimes it works out for him, sometimes it doesn’t.

Team RWBY



Each of the girls’ tremendous prowess in combat is all tied back to their Auras, which can drain over the course of a fight whenever their Semblances are in effect or when they take damage. If their Auras were to be broken, they not only lose access to their Semblances but are more vulnerable to a potentially fatal blow. Their Auras do naturally refill over time, but it isn’t at speeds which can be replenished within the course of a single fight. Actively healing each other with Auras can also take time to perform, leaving both the healer and wounded open to attacks.


The amount of ammunition - Dust or otherwise - they carry in a fight is limited as well, and running out could rob them of other combat options, like Blake’s Shadow variants or Weiss’ modified Glyphs. As with their opponents, while they are all very capable warriors in their own rights, they are arguably at their best when fighting alongside each other.

Ruby



Ruby’s Silver Eyes have only appeared in times of extreme stress, such as seeing Pyrrha killed by Cinder and almost witnessing Jaune’s demise. Although she has very recently learned how to actively harness it in combat, such a power is only effective on Grimm or beings that have part-Grimm physiology like Cinder; anything else remains unaffected.


Ruby also can’t fight to save her life without her scythe, but she has gone through a little training with Ozpin to help with that.

Weiss



Weiss’ Summons act as a double-edged blade of sorts. Her most powerful summons not only require time but a large amount of her Aura to boot, so going for them could be a risky move on her part as this may lead to potentially critical injuries, such as when she was nearly killed by Cinder in Mistral.


She also had something of a haughty streak to herself, being very prideful about her abilities to the point of arrogance. That said, she has significantly mellowed out since the Fall of Beacon.

Blake



Unlike the clones manifested by her close friend Sun Wukong, Blake’s Shadows cannot be used offensively, and are often meant to be used for defensive or evasive maneuvers. This reflects on her fighting style as a whole; she relies less on brute force and more on subterfuge to win fights, but with the amount of Shadows she summons, she can risk tapping out her Aura reserves quickly.


As with Weiss, Blake had her own emotional baggage to carry in earlier Volumes: a tendency to run away from her problems and be distant from others as a byproduct of her time with Adam and the White Fang, although time with both Sun and her teammates - especially Yang - have remedied this.

Yang



Yang’s Semblance is a double-edged sword, as it can only activate the more punishment she takes over the course of a fight. The power increase she gets does not translate to an increase in durability, meaning that she still needs to take the full brunt of an attack for her Semblance to begin working. This means that she can still be incapacitated or risk having her Aura broken if hit with powerful enough attacks; alternatively, opponents well-versed in dodging or evading can frustrate her to no end.


As pointed out by Taiyang, she had relied on it as a crutch that could carry her when her own skills weren’t enough, akin to a “temper tantrum” in his own words. Training with him has toned this down, as seen with Yang acting much less impulsive and slowly learning how to overcome the trauma she obtained from the end of Volume 3.


Speaking of PTSD, listening to “I Burn” may also cause it to manifest within two groups of people: salty Final Fantasy VII fanboys/fangirls/fan-people and anyone who fights her in BlazBlue. We lack further research and understanding of this problem to comment further.

Summary

Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles



Advantages:
  • Better stats.
  • Composited background means that they also have the edge in experience, specifically in fighting more varied and powerful foes and working as a team.
  • Can easily fall back on utilizing stealth, which none of Team RWBY sans Blake specialize in.
  • Should have better training, having started earlier in their lives under the tutelage of one of the greatest martial artists ever (evident by Splinter’s Battle Nexus wins)
  • They’re used to fighting hordes of enemies at once (Foot Clan, Purple Dragons, Triceratons, etc.) so Weiss’s summons should be manageable.
  • As none of them are Grimm, Ruby’s Silver Eyes are ineffective.
  • Shells provide a extra set of defensive equipment which Team RWBY lacks.
  • If you go beyond the classics, the Turtles have far more weapons to bring into battle with them.
    • Leo’s portal power can be used both to escape danger, disorient the girls if he manages to send them through it, and reflect their projectiles back at them (though he is still figuring it out)
    • Raph’s tonfa can provide an extra strength boost, plus forcefields to shield from attacks, and his manrikigusari gives him a much needed boost in range
    • Donnie’s tech bo, tech pack and goggles offer a wide variety of useful tools, and even just his naginata blade makes it a lot easier for him to do damage
    • Mikey’s kusarigama/fundo add a lot of range to his set, plus the ability to tangle up foes and create some fire attacks
  • Injustice 2.


Disadvantages:
  • Their healing options are nowhere near as good as that of Team RWBY’s.
  • While inconsistent, the Turtles’ weapons still have a greater chance of being broken in a fight compared to that of the RWBY girls’.
  • Outnumbered if Weiss introduces Summons to the field.

Team RWBY

- Ruby Rose


Advantages:
  • Better projectiles, in addition to Shadows, Summons and more area-of-effect attacks give them the edge in battlefield control.
  • Auras can be used to heal each other and protect against fatal attacks.
  • Weiss’ Summon Glyphs can increase their team numbers by calling on more allies.
  • BlazBlue: Cross Tag Battle.


Disadvantages:
  • As the Turtles aren’t Grimm, Ruby’s Silver Eyes have no effect on them.
  • Lower stats.
  • While experienced on their own, the Turtles’ own track record against much more powerful and varied opponents trump theirs’.
  • Semblances, Aura and ammo all run on limited quantities; Auras are also unlikely to replenish within a fight.
  • Enters combat without any defensive equipment like armor, whereas the Turtles at least have their shells.
  • Lacks formal combat training and hand-to-hand experience by comparison.
  • With the exception of Blake, none of them are trained enough in stealth to counter the Turtles’ own ninja tactics. Even if they tried to turn the tables this way, Donnie’s gadgets could detect them easily.

Verdicts



Grand Blazer
(I looooooooove being a turtle!)


Fight Track Name Prediction: Ninjas and Huntresses


Woo! Ninja Turtles fight! I’ve been wanting this fight to be an episode forever, and it was my suggestion to make it our back-up in case something came along that we didn’t want to do, or to publish at the end of a season. And well, we’re two episodes into a new one, but that’s what laziness does to you. I do also hope that the show eventually does this fight. I know that the likes Battletoads, Street Sharks and Power Rangers are a lot more requested, but I feel like those are all a bit lopsided. Plus even if they are more requested I feel like Team RWBY could carry an episode a lot better for the general audience than at least two out of three of those, perhaps all of them. It helps that they share the same number of members too, unlike another two out of three of those teams.


Anyways, let’s get to the talkity-talk, shall we?


I think if you were to just take a casual look through both series, you’d prooobably think that Team RWBY would be the winners just because their fights are a lot flashier and more over-the-top than what the Turtles do, but make no mistake, they’re pretty even when it comes to the stats department, with the Turtles slightly edging them out. Each team member scales to each other pretty well barring a few minor differences with Raph and Yang being considered the physical strongest and Ruby can outspeed her team members via semblance, but they overall should each land around the building to city-block level with some hypersonic to massively hypersonic speeds due to scaling to Grimm monsters and some of the crazy magic people that New York seems to be a magnet for. Not that it matters much anyways though, because the Turtles have them beat in almost every single other category, but I’ll start off with what red, white, black and yellow have going for them first.


Team RWBY have far better healing options with their Auras, as each one is capable of healing themselves while continuing to fight without concentrating on it. The TMNT on the other hand only have Leo for healing options, and to pull this off he needs to perform a fairly lengthy chant with a couple of hand gestures and then touch the person he’s looking to heal. While these both hold about the same level of potency (can heal minor wounds and stuff but won’t save you from stabbings), one is clearly more useful than the other. If the Turtles got into a scenario where Leo had to heal someone up, that would leave the other two Turtles alone to fight all four girls plus Weiss’ summons, and Ruby is a smart enough leader to suggest using Speed or Blake’s Shadows to try slipping by and going for the head. I don’t think this is a particularly likely scenario though, but we’ll get to that later.


The RWBY ladies do also have some better long range options to them. Not that the Turtles are short on them, but the numerous guns would allow for range and power that I think would be more useful than the simple diversity of arrows, shurikens, a couple of chain weapons and whatever Donnie is packing in his tech stuff. Again though, this is not a scenario that I see working too well. Long distance hasn’t been a game I’ve ever seen the young lasses play for an entire fight, especially since they all seem a lot more accustomed to up close and personal stuff, but also the Turtles just have several counters to it. Leo can use his portals to send the bullets anywhere else, Raph’s tonfa force fields can block them pretty easily while he also closes the distance totally protected, and the smoke bombs are really good at making it seem like the Turtles can just straight up teleport anywhere. Including right behind them.
Kind of it for the things Team RWBY has going for them. Wanna hear what the Turtles got over them?


Well for starters, even if durability is evened out, the Turtles manage to have better survivability than the RWBY gals due to that physiology that they discussed back in the original battle royale. We actually have a really clear-cut comparison between the two as well. Here’s Leo getting stabbed and here’s Weiss getting stabbed. Now we don’t see where exactly Leo gets hit cuz censorship things, but even assuming it’s in the exact same spot where Weiss got it, which it doesn’t seem to be, Leo manages to stand up, walk around, talk and all that stuff not that long after. Weiss on the other hand, who has an actual healing factor, starts dying right away, and only survives because Jaune pulled out his semblance and spent minutes amplifying that healing factor. And obviously all the turtles and girls scale to each other, so one side is still able to take the hits a lot better despite having the same durability. And that’s kind of a pretty bad thing for the side with healing factors and stuff to be losing.


“But Weiss’ aura was broken! It could protect her!”

Those things are prone to being worn down without that much hassle. Or at the very least, it won’t be too much hassle for the green guys. Soften the girls up for a bit and Raph can stab them fairly easily.


The Turtles also just work as a team a lot better than Team RWBY does. I mean, they were born and raised with each other, trained together, spar with each other, and the whole shebang. They know all their strengths and weaknesses, inside and out, and the girls just can’t compete with that when they’ve only known each other for a year or so at best, and spent a fair bit of that time either in class or apart from each other. Hell, not counting the games or manga, the girls have only battled as a whole unit around a dozen times. And I don’t think I need to link a Turtlepedia article to say that the Turtles are beating that number by a longshot.


To make matters worse, Weiss’ summons really don’t help out much here either, for several reasons. For starters, let’s give her the benefit of a doubt and say she manages to bring all of them to the field. That’s a total of three. So a fight of four VS seven, except the Turtles are already super used to being outnumbered in fights. I think the thing that illustrates this point the best would be this battle with the Triceratrons.


Here we see the Turtles take on a dozen or so trained soldiers, up close, similar to the situation here. And even if we say that Team RWBY has their semblances and superior weapons, that doesn’t mean very much when the Turtles accomplished this with janitorial equipment and spoons. You really think they couldn’t do it the girls if they had their weapons?


And this is all assuming Weiss even gets the chance to summon them. In what will then be a 3v4 match, a leader like Leonardo is going to notice her taking her time to perform this and try stop it before it’s completed, which we’ve seen work against Weiss before. That leaves Ruby, Blake and Yang to try defending her from all four Turtles, and I really doubt they could succeed at that with things like Mikey’s crazy acrobatics, Leo’s portals, Donnie’s flight, their shuriken, their yumi, and whatever else I’m not thinking of. Speaking of their weapons though, let’s get into those.


Particularly since we’re giving them their weapons from Rise, the Turtles also have a lot more hax abilities to their arsenal. Just to bullet point things real quick:
  • Leo’s odachi blade allows him to open portals which will move anyone on the battlefield around. He could slip himself or his brothers away from attacks, slip the girls into attacks, disorient them, and reflect projectiles away. Even when you consider that he doesn’t have perfect control over it, provided he can pull the thing, he should be fine.
  • Raph can create force fields which also defend from enemy attacks, and seem to have just as much endurance as the girls auras. What’s more, he can turn into a giant glowing avatar to increase his power by a lot. Probably enough to compete with a raged-up Yang, at the very least. Past that, he’s also got some manriki chains which make up for his lack of range by a lot, and they still pack a decent punch.
  • Mikey also got a lot more range now thanks to his kusarigama and kusari fundo, both of which can be used to tie up the enemies. The former also has a blade to it which would be more effective than a blunt weapon, and the kusari fundo can be used for fire manipulation.
  • Donnie. Hoo boy, Donnie. I mean, just look at his stuff. He finally got a stabby weapon with the Naginata, but he’s also got his tech pack, tech bo, and tech goggles, which have all their various uses listed in their designated sections. Most notable abilities would include various forms of flight, an electric discharge, infrared vision, lock-on targeting and a drill.


That certainly helps them to compete and very likely surpass with the dual-functionality of the lasses’ weapons, and their semblances are nothing so far out of the ordinary that the Turtles couldn’t deal with them. Heck, two of them are essentially just stat boosts, which shouldn’t really cause too much of a problem since the Turtles already have them slightly edged out in that regard and have their own comparable abilities.


I could go on, but I think I’ve made my point clear by now. The Ninja Turtles just have far superior training and experience, both as individual fighters and as a team, and they can counter Team RWBY’s abilities a lot better than the girls can do to them. When all is said and done, you can bet that this fight is gonna end with one word: COWABUNGA!

ramonzer0



Fight Track Name Prediction: Shell-Shocked Semblances


Hoooolyyyyy shitttttt…. We’ve held this up for far too long. Welp, here it is! Ready for you! While you eat! Merry Christ--- oh lol it’s March. Uhhhh…. Happy St. Patrick’s Day?


No joke, we’ve had this in the works since the Leon vs. Frank fight last year, so after almost a year purgatory, we’ve finally gotten off our asses to present to you a fight that - personally speaking - I’m surprised hasn’t been done (or finished) by anyone else on the internet despite how thematic this is. (Also, let’s be honest, there are only so many teams of four we could realistically go with for a fight like this.) Analyzing this fight was a tricky one at first since this is an 8-person affair after all, but seeing as the combatants on both sides scale to each other handily more often than not, we can get rough estimates for their collective stats for when we pit ‘em head-to-head.


Let’s start with Team RWBY, since they’re a lot simpler to go over. To use some VS parlance, many of their feats - Ruby killing Nevermores in a matter of seconds, Yang tanking the pillar bust from Roman’s Paladin, Weiss’ Gigas summon matching the Queen Lancer and Blake teaming up with Sun to defeat the Sea Dragon - should roughly put them around Building-level in terms of destructive capability and durability, while feats such as dodging lightning-based attacks from the aforementioned Sea Dragon and Emerald locks them in at hypersonic speeds, about Mach 10-25 depending on how leniently you interpret them.


Now for the Turtles, who - as a reminder - are getting composited, and this is where things can be somewhat dicey if you’re not a fan of composites. See, some of the Turtles’ various incarnations vary on whether or not they can take Team RWBY on stat-wise and win; for example, we can confidently state that the movie versions (i.e. the Bay films, 2007 and the original live-action ones) don’t have what it takes to stand up to the girls, so they get eliminated fast. The issue comes around with the various comics and cartoons that tend to run for several years at a time, and these versions are where Team RWBY will find themselves in a spot of bother.


The obvious heavy-hitters out of the bunch are the 2003 Turtles; even without the one-shot weapons they’ve acquired as per our rules above state, they’re commonly pegged to be the strongest animated incarnation of the TMNT thus far given they’ve fought city destroying-level threats. While not as strong, both the 1987 and 2012 teams have fought very comparable foes, and then there’s the general insanity of the Mirage and IDW Turtles -- because comic books really do be like that almost all the time. Point is that the general un-impressiveness of the weaker TMNT teams is kind of moot with how hilariously strong the top tier versions are. On average, the Turtles come out holding the advantage ball with stats; even giving the ladies the benefit of the doubt with regards to stats results in a relative tie in terms of destructive capability and durability, but a disadvantage with speed since the Turtles’ massively hypersonic speed feats beat out the girls topping out at around just hypersonic.


Stats aside, this does also tie in to another crucial area in which the Turtles have a decisive advantage: experience. Both have experience in fighting all sorts of bad guys like monsters and criminals, but it’s crucial to point out that the Turtles have simply fought and defeated more of them - helps that they’ve been around 30+ years to RWBY’s 6. Even looking at general achievements shows that the Turtles have accomplished things Team RWBY don’t have answers to, like travelling back in time, entering alternate dimensions, toppling an empire of alien dinosaurs, destroying machines that can wipe out cities and literally saving the multiverse from being torn apart at the seams. Granted, the business with Salem could end the same way, but as of now, Team RWBY’s resume isn’t half as impressive as their opponents’.


That’s not even counting the other ways experience benefits the Turtles here. Combat training? Team RWBY got their fair share of individual training even before Beacon - Ruby with Qrow, Yang with her dad, Weiss in the SDC’s training room and Blake acting on behalf of the White Fang - but the Turtles are lucky to have an father figure who just so happens to be one of the greatest martial artists in history, which we can’t say for any of the combat mentors the girls have had so far. The ability to work as a team? The Turtles’ collective upbringing means that they already had more than a decade’s worth of getting to understand each other’s fighting styles and personalities, whereas outside of Ruby and Yang, Team RWBY have only known each other for roughly a year or so and only spent that as an active team in half that time - thanks, Volume 4 and 5!


Combat options? Woo, boy… this’ll be a doozy.


Strictly looking at just how they perform in a fight, there are some areas in which Team RWBY can take the advantage. After all, they boast the flashier set of powers, and their better projectiles can throw the Turtles on a loop. Add to that better space control via the use of their individual Semblances and the ability to keep themselves patched up from any fatal injuries with their Auras, and they have a solid game plan on their hands. That’s still not much of an answer to the Turtles still being the more cohesive and experienced team between the two, or the various gadgets they’re packing, which GB has been kind to elaborate on above. The Turtles can also fall back on stealth and surprise attacks, which nobody on Team RWBY save for possibly Blake has an answer for thanks to her cat Faunus-ness.


I guess to some extent, Team RWBY have a leg up with healing options since Auras can be used for that purpose, especially since all four of them can pull it off against Leo being the designated medic with his Healing Hands. Then again, Aura healing still isn’t a fully reliable path to take, and neither it or the Hands are quick pick-me-ups on the level of casting straight up healing magic.


From my viewpoint, I think what really damns Team RWBY in the end is the fact that they’re stuck in a battle of attrition which they’re not likely to win. Both they and the Turtles are resilient and brave - no doubt, but the girls only perform as well as they do thanks to their Auras and Semblances, which are bound to grow thin over the course of a fight. As versatile as they may be, overuse and taking punishment will led to their limits being hit - see Yang and Blake killing Adam as proof of what happens when their Auras are broken, and Weiss’ near-death experience against Cinder is a good indicator of what could happen when that comes around.


Their ranged options like shurikens and Dust ammo are all on limited supplies too, and while the Turtles’ default weapons are more likely to be broken, part of their ninja training also allows them to close the gap with hand-to-hand combat, which - outside of Yang - none of Team RWBY are shown to be exceptionally great at. Breaking this down to specific one-on-one matchups based on likely thematics won’t turn out great either, especially in terms of leadership qualities (Leo without a doubt), intelligence (Donnie), raw combat prowess (Raph) or unpredictability (Mikey).


So given that me and my mates here have taken the longest amount of time to formulate the ways the Turtles stomp the biggest mud hole and back even without giving them everything they had, is there any chance we could go the other way in the future if this was an actual episode? Yes, it’s a possibility. RWBY as a franchise has continued to grow and expand - all the props in the world go to them, but unless we’re looking as a massive power creep within the show’s run - i.e. the girls become the Maidens and have enough power to nuke Remnant or fight the brother gods, I legitimately doubt they can turn the tables, especially since - again - we didn’t give the Turtles everything. Oh, hi OVA Turtles capable of nuking the galaxy.


TL;DR: The Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles should take this handily. They’re more likely to come out with a stat advantage depending on feats, and even with them equalized, the amount of experience they have in almost every significant area possible - whether it may be formal training, teamwork, strategies and everything in between - gives them too many advantages for Team RWBY to reliably answer; in short, the Turtles have more than enough to make their lives a living s-hell. (Dammit, that sounded better in my head.)

Malcolm Belmont



Fight Track Name Prediction: Huntresses in a Half-Shell


Oh hey, the G1 DEATH BATTLE Fan Blog’s first ever original DEATH BATTLE Blog. TMNT vs RWBY has been a blog that we have been working on for some time and i am very happy that we finally get to release it.




So who wins this fight - the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles or Team RWBY. Well let’s go over each catagory at a time and see who i think would win this fight.


Strength: It should be noted that the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles vary widely from series to series in terms of Strength/Destructive Capability Feats so for this fight i’ve decided to take the highest potential they have outside of Super Forms - which i will mention later. Well the strongest version of the TMNT outside of superforms is the TMNT 2003 series - the TMNT of the 2003 has been put at Small Town Level-Town Level with certain weapons. During one of the later seasons of TMNT 2003 - the turtles were given new weapons which  Raphael's "Banrai" which was stated to be able to shatter mountains by Juto-Shisho. This would be a town level feat. So if we take the highest base forms of the TMNT they should have Small Town Level-Town Level Destructive Capability but what about team RWBY. For Team RWBY i think it’s safe to say that going with Volume 6 Team RWBY seems like the safest bet. Well thanks to this calc - we know that the Lancers in RWBY are City Block Level and thanks to the fact that Weiss defeated them - i can scale the rest of Team RWBY to Weiss and the Lancers - putting their destructive capability at City Block Level. So overall Small-Town Level to Town Level vs City Block Level. It should be pretty obvious here that TMNT take it but slightly. Plus it should also be put into consideration there are some versions of TMNT that are weaker than team RWBY. Also if we were including super forms/dragon transformations from TMNT then this would be a complete stomp as those Dragon Transformations put the TMNT at Large Planet Level due to a feat Tengu Shredder managed to preform. So yeah point to TMNT.


Speed: When it comes to the Speed of Team RWBY and TMNT, they are actually surprisingly close. In terms of speed feats - TMNT of the 2003 series are able to react and dodges thunder bolts from mystic ninjas, this could put their speed about Hypersonic. Well surprisingly Team RWBY are also hypersonic - Mercury’s speed feat where he dodged the thunder thrown at him by Amber puts him to the Hypersonic Speed level which also scales to the members of Team RWBY. So which Team wins this category - well i would say that it’s a draw since both team scales and have preformed feats that would be considered Hypersonic. 2 to TMNT and 1 to Team RWBY.


Durability: In terms of durability - well Destructive Capability is tied to Durability so TMNT would definitely wins this but let’s go in a little bit deeper. The TMNT in the 2003 series have tanked a direct blast from the Sword of Tengu, which "laid villages to waste" and "brought castles to the ground". Took hits from mutants who shook the city of New York (as TMNT is set in New York which would put this feat at Town Level. Team RWBY on the other hand. As for Team RWBY - they haven’t displayed feats that are greater than City Block Level though i will freely admit that Aura will allow them to tank a considerable amount of damage before they go down (though it would break eventually). So as you can see TMNT have the greater durability. 3 to TMNT and 1 to Team RWBY


Weaponry: Here’s the thing with this category - while TMNT do have a more versatile set of weapons and Rise of the TMNT have them a significant buff in this department - especially when concerning Donatello - i would still say that Team RWBY have the superior weaponry. Weiss’s Weapon Myrtenaster gives Team RWBY a lot of versatility based on it’s dust and summon mechanics (which is why Weiss is easily the most important member of Team RWBY in this fight). It’s sheer versatility outpaces any weapon that TMNT have. The only member of Team TMNT that could stand up to Weiss in terms of weaponry would be Rise of the TMNT Donatello and even then it falls short.It’s also not like the other members of Team RWBY are slouches in this department either. I am going to give this one to Team RWBY. That’s 3 for TMNT and 2 for RWBY.


Experience/Training. Now this is kinda a tricky one - both Team RWBY and TMNT have had extensive training. Team RWBY when to beacon to become skilled huntresses and they all learned how to fight extremely well while the TMNT learned from their Master Splinter since they were extremely young. They have also received extensive training by other Fighting Masters as well. Experience is also fairly close as RWBY has stopped the Invasion of Mistral as well as fought in the Battle of Beacon while Team TMNT have fought in TMNT’s version of No Man’s Land as well as fought super powered aliens, stopped intergalactic wars and the Foot many many times. This is extremely close but i would give the slight edge to the the TMNT as they have been training since they were very small and have experienced many many many battles over their 20+ years of history (even if you went with only 2003 and 2012 they would still have the edge in the experience). That’s 4 for TMNT and 2 for RWBY


And the final category is Teamwork:


Team RWBY are skilled fighters and can easily back-each up - there is no doubt about that but despite their tendencies to argue - TMNT are experts when it comes to teamwork and coordinating their attacks together - while any 4 of them are strong fighters (even Michelangelo). What makes TMNT deadly is when they work together to coordinate their attacks effectively. While Team RWBY’s team attacks are cool and all - i still think that throughout their 20+ years - the TMNT have accomplished much together and are a better Team than Team RWBY. That’s 5 for TMNT and 2 for RWBY


In Conclusion - While Team RWBY are a very skilled team and definitely have certain edges in this category - i still definitely think that the TMNT take this through their superior Destructive Capability/Durability/Experience/Training and Teamwork. While i do think that this is a fairy close fight - i think that the TMNT edges out in most categories to give them the win. Looks like Team RWBY were only Half-Shell Huntresses.




Kirby Kid

I always liked me some team fights that weren’t just infighting within the main group, and actual fighting exercised by the teams that are used to fighting with each other rather than against one another.


The TMNT have been set up to fight each other before, but to see them be able to hopefully have a chance to fight against the likes of team RWBY, and for it to be a reasonable fight? Totally awesome.


The TMNT have years of experience on their belt thanks to being.. well, from a comic book. Only just recently had the RWBY gang been getting some traction like with the manga and video game appearances such as cross tag. If by the end of the series we get some game changing stuff, that wouldn’t be surprising, but as it stands now, the turtles purely just have much more to go off of to find something that can give them the edge. Weapons? The turtles have that in spades. Durability? They’re goddamn turtles. Strength? Unlike the RWBY gang, it all comes to them naturally and physically (for as natural as being mutated into a hero can get).


Not only that, some of the moves from the characters on RWBY’s side just aren’t effective in a fight to begin with. It’s extremely worrisome that Ruby’s strongest attack can literally only effect Grimm.


With more options, feats, skills, and weapons, the TMNT group takes this.


Brobuscus


Finally kicked procrastination’s butt, so let’s get this over with before it gets its painful revenge.


While I’m far from experted in TMNT, I would consider myself a fan of the characters themselves. The 2012 show specifically has my favorite versions(don’t know if that’s unpopular, but eh, whatever). The show gave me a new appreciation for the turtles themselves, and I grew to like them a lot. Leo’s definitely my favorite out of all of them, however.


As for RWBY, I’m a huge fan of the show and the characters. While I’m among a handful of people who didn’t watch the show until Yang was announced for her official Death Battle, when I finally did watch it, I quickly was latched on. The characters are very interesting to me, and the writing amplifies that. They’re all definitely flawed, but I find them very likeable characters and the show itself became one of my favorite online shows to watch. Team RWBY specifically are, to me, the most relatable and interesting characters on the show(well, it’s them and Jaune anyway), and they’re development definitely shows, though it seems as though some people can’t see that(not trying to change anyone’s opinions on the show or characters, but still). Yang’s probably my favorite, but they’re all super cool.


So as you can probably tell, I spent a lot of my effort on this blog researching Team RWBY, and hardly touched the Turtles. But that’s ok, because everyone else who helped on this blog handled them really well. Some of those feats I didn’t even know about.


So you can also probably tell that I’m not exactly thrilled to say who I think wins.


Starting off with strength, the two teams seem relatively even to me. Leo pried open a T-Rex’s mouth, and Raph should definitely be capable of doing that too, whereas all of Team RWBY can take out Grimm beasts who are capable of dishing out Large Building Level feats. Weiss’s Summons took out a Queen Lancer, and she can now summon said Queen Lancer, and this thing can survive a dust explosion equal to about CIty Block Level. The problem is that the Turtles were capable of also fighting foes who can destroy cities, so while Team RWBY might be physically on par with the Turtles, the Turtles have fought much worse. And I do mean MUCH worse. So this category goes to the TMNT.


Speed is a bit of an interesting one. Movement wise, both teams are capable of dodging gunfire and laser fire, but Team RWBY definitely holds an edge with the stuff they’ve done. But reaction wise, this is a completely different story. While most, if not all of Team RWBY should scale to Massively Hypersonic foes like Mercury, the Turtles have not only piloted ships that can fly at FTL speeds, but they’ve also kept up with other people who can do the same thing. Basically, I’m giving this to Team RWBY but the Turtles can hold their own, so……..yeah.


Durability, unfortunately, is hardly a contest. Both teams have their own defenses, with the TMNT having their shells and Team RWBY having their aura. RWBY’s aura has shown incredible durability, but have also shown that they do break, a lot. They have shown that strong enough attacks can still be enough to kill them. But still, Grimm fodder and even strong Huntsman/tresses in training have a hard time breaking it, so they’re still pretty tough. However, the Turtles are capable of so much more. Raph’s shrugged off hits from a being that one-shot Leo, and Leo can beat the freaking Shredder. Not much discussion here, the TMNT are tougher.


Now let’s get into weaponry. As you know, the Turtles are composited for this blog, and that allows for them to have more than simple swords, bo staffs, nunchucks, and sais. Some versions have gone so far as to upgrade those weapons to pull of abilities such as firing beams of energy. If anyone of the Turtles was the most versatile, it’s definitely Donnie, and it’s all thanks to his tech staff.  In contrast, while Team RWBY themselves look like they have basic weapons, their weaponry is anything but basic. Crescent Rose can go from a sniper rifle to a scythe to even a spear, and in it’s sniper form, it can fire basic shots, electric shots, or even fire. Myrtenaster can also fire different types of dust, but she mainly uses ice or occasionally fire. Gambel Shroud, even though it’s currently broken, was basically 4 different things in one set. Her scabbard also doubles as a blade, which houses a smaller blade inside it that can turn into a semi-auto pistol, and it can be thrown like a grappling hook. As for Ember Celica and Yang’s prosthetic arm, it’s probably the least versatile of the group, but they’re both capable of firing blasts of energy like shotguns. It’s pretty even how versatile both teams are, but because Donnie’s RofTMNT staff if as versatile as it is, and the rest of the Turtles are hardly slouches in versatility as well, I’d feel kinda uncomfortable not giving them the edge here. So I give this category to the TMNT, but not by much.


As for experience, I’ll keep this brief considering how easy it is to figure out. Team RWBY is definitely experienced, but not only have the TMNT been training for all their lives, but they’ve also gone up against foes that fight somewhat similarly to Team RWBY. The TMNT win this by both regular experience and experience against foes similar to Team RWBY.


Now let’s go over one thing that I thought would help Team RWBY a lot, and that’s their semblances and special powers. Ruby’s obviously won’t be insanely helpful considering it’s just a speed boost that the Turtles can keep up with and react to. Weiss’ glyphs might be handy, but I’m not sure. And Yang’s semblance is practically useless against a foe who’s much more powerful, which the Turtles are. The real kickers here are Weiss’ Summons and Blake’s shadows. The former of which can allow for Team RWBY to outnumber the Turtles, and the latter can allow for a quick getaway. Sounds useful, right? Well, it would be, if it weren’t for the fact that A.) the Turtles have been outnumbered before and still prevailed, and B.) Blake’s shadows are great for avoiding attacks she can react to, but that’s not the case for the Turtles.


It’s a shame that it goes this way for me. As a huge RWBY fan, I wanted to say that Team RWBY wins this, but I pretty much expected from day one that it wasn’t gonna go down that way, and having looked into it now…….sigh.


The winners are the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles.

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OH WHAT WE FINALLY GOT THIS DONE AFTER LIKE FOUR MONTHS OF BEING A BUNCH OF LAZY FUCKHOLES???? Never give up on your dreams, kids.

Anyways, despite us saying we’d release this in between Season 5 and Season 6, it looks like this fight is fulfilling its original purpose anyways of acting as a replacement blog. Well, kind of. We still got Captain Marvel VS Shazam out, but this is to keep the interest flowing since there is nothing to that one. Fingers crossed we can stay away from Marvel VS DC for like… months. Check it out here anyways: https://g1dbteamblogs.blogspot.com/2019/04/death-battle-predictions-captain-marvel.html


Guess now it’s time we find another blog to have serve as a backup. Wish us luck. See you in the next one.



2 comments:

  1. Having this put out on my birthday, I am honored. Not only that, you put up a great and fascinating idea for a Death Battle. I really want to see this now, and you done amazing research despite the long delay. Great job for all of you, and I hope you all can do more like this in the future.

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  2. They’re used to fighting hordes of enemies at once (Foot Clan, Purple Dragons, Triceratons, etc.) so Weiss’s summons should be manageable.
    As none of them are Grimm, Ruby’s Silver Eyes are ineffective.
    Shells provide a extra set of defensive equipment which Team RWBY lacks.
    If you go beyond the classics, the Cool Ninja Turtles have far more weapons to bring into battle with them.

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